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I tend to not care for action rpgs in general. They get old a lot faster than turn based for some reason but that's my experience.
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They also tend to be shorter. So proportionately speaking it probably ends up at the same rate of 10% of fun, and 90% of WHEN THE FUCK WILL THIS SHIT END!
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But you like Zelda, ya?
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i'm not sure if zelda's an RPG. it's more like an adventure game (see point & click games, progress depends on solution of puzzles) with focus on action as well.
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Nothing like a good Pikohn post to derail a good thread :sarc

Anyway, I've always thought of Zelda as being in the action RPG subgenre.
Obviously you could divide this subgenre down again (and maybe again), but the collectiong shit, villages, dungeon exploration, and fighting make it a lot more akin with a console RPG than with a point and click adventure.
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Damien wrote:Anyway, I've always thought of Zelda as being in the action RPG subgenre.
Zelda 2, yes. Zelda <everything else>, probably not.

"RPG" in the videogame sense more or less means number-juggling, with detailed stat systems, experience grinding, etc. In "action rpg", profound lack of skill can be corrected for via profound patience in killing countless peons and accumulating levels and such. In non-two Zelda, all murdering those peons does is gain money and bombs and stuff.

(Yes, Symphony of the Night is an "Action RPG", as is River City Ransom)
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Zelda is action adventure.
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See? Even HKK agrees, and I put a hit out on his head over his Okami review.

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Totally agree with what Qmark said about Zelda and the reasons why it's not an RPG :check
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Questionmarktarius wrote:See? Even HKK agrees, and I put a hit out on his head over his Okami review.

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himurokoken wrote:Sorry duder. :(
No, seriously. That giant stinky shit you laid all over Okami - not cool, man.
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I still ahven't played the English version fo Okami :{
So many games, no fucking time at all :{
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True 'dat. I've got more RPGs to finish than I'd care to like.

DGVIII
FFIV Advance
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Breath Of Fire III

..and that's before I buy anything else
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Breath of Fire III is a killer. The story just keeps going off on tangents until the game finally ends.
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I got the game like...6 years ago and I still haven't finished it.

And I know the perfect strategy for the final boss. I just need to get there.
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Who cares? Just play it? My nub GC version should arrive soon. At least I won't have everything reversed (O MAN LINK IS A RIGHTY).
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Damien wrote:Breath of Fire III is a killer. The story just keeps going off on tangents until the game finally ends.
That actually describes every game in the series more or less.
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I dunno. With IV, at least there was some consistency...even if it only was when Fou-Lu was on the screen.
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Well, when he says tangents, I assume he's referring to the countless fetch quests and such that hinder actual progression of the story. Sure, with Fou-Lu there was a bit more prograssion of the story throughout, but once his part of the story is over, you just go through a bunch of sidetracking fetch quest crap right on until the end. It actually felt worse to me in BoF4, tbh.
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That reminds me. I really, really hate BoFV.
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I never played BoFV because it sounded really stupid to me. Vash liked ot a lot I think..... but.... Vash liked Xenosaga too....

I'm kind of disappointed they ended the series there though.
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They ended it!?
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Well, i don't know if they officially ended it, but after a few years without a single word on a new game....well, let's just say I don't think BoF will have the kind of pull for another sequel that Chrono Trigger had....

On the other hand, this is Capcom, so that might have some sort of policy that mandates at least ten games to a series.
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Apparently Square have announced a sequel to FFT for the GBA :o
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GBA? Really?

Or are you talking about the one we got a couple years back?
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Dunno. The information was very vague.
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There's definately a port of FFT for the PSP.
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Yeah, there is.
But now there's speak of an FFT sequel for the GBA.
Square-Enixu really are whoring the handhelds next year.
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Why the hell not?
That is where the market share is now.
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Yeah, I've heard about that FFTA sequel too. Not sure if it's for the GBA, or the NDS, or whatever, but it's an FFTA sequel for sure.
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I read of Magicbox that it's a GBA game, but they're as Engrish as fuck, so who knows?
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fuck ffta
go play a real srpg
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Damien wrote:I read of Magicbox that it's a GBA game, but they're as Engrish as fuck, so who knows?
The quote was 'Square Enix announced Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Fuuketsu no Guurimore, the sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics Advance for GBA, no details or platform was announced.'

So, no platform has been announced. The GBA bit was just info on the original FFTA.

...still, I don't really have much excitement for it anyway. FFTA never clicked with me like I'd like it to.
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They altered it. It was under the GBA news heading thismorning, and mentioned it was on the GBA. they must have employed a part time editor or something.
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I'm pretty sure I saw it under GBA news on the QJ website yesterday, but I couldn't get onto the actual news story itself.
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I need to be clued in as im a nub, Square enix, info pleeeeez.
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Whisp wrote:I need to be clued in as im a nub, Square enix, info pleeeeez.
What sort of info?
The info is contained in the threads.
Fell free to ask specific questions, or start your own threads if a game is not already being discussed.
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Is square enix a game cuz ive never heard of it before..... or is it related to square gamer?
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Whisp wrote:Is square enix a game cuz ive never heard of it before..... or is it related to square gamer?
Pardon? :?
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Square Enix is a game company, Whisp. Actually it used to be two companies (Squaresoft, and Enix) but they merged a while ago. They've produced mostly RPGs, such as the Final Fantasy series, and the Dragon Quest series.

Square Gamer was named after Squaresoft, back then long before they merged with Enix.
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Whisp.... how did you find yourself to this site?
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Whisp wrote:Is square enix a game cuz ive never heard of it before..... or is it related to square gamer?
well, if you want to know, they suck. don't bother with them.
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Square-Enixu have confirmed that FFTA2 is a DS game :o
No surprises there then :p
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FFT PSP really needs to be more than just "the same old crap + OnionKids". In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Squeenix passes on NA/EU for this one.
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I'm officially never buying a Square-Enix product ever again due solely to the underwater kissing scene in FFX. That, coupled with the laughing scene, crossed the threshhold for tolerable gayness in a video game.
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Don't play Enchanted Arms then, if gayness annoys you.
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Fire-3 wrote:I'm officially never buying a Square-Enix product ever again due solely to the underwater kissing scene in FFX. That, coupled with the laughing scene, crossed the threshhold for tolerable gayness in a video game.
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