2G18 - 38: Film sequels that are NOT worse than the original

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:21 am

Well???

[spoiler]Yeah yeah Empire Strikes Back.[/spoiler]

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:33 am

Adulthood is better than Kidulthood, even though it’s not as funny.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:52 pm

Room is better than its 2G3 prequel The Room

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:53 pm

Definitely, Empire. Back to the Future Part 2.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:19 pm

You think Back to the Future 2 is better than/equal to the original?! Have you actually watched those both since you were a child blinded by hoverboards?

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:40 pm

Uh, yes and the future part is not the best part of Back to the Future 2. It's the return to the past part, which is superb.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:52 pm

It’s well-executed in terms of reusing scenes from the first film, and especially in making it seem like Crispin Glover was in it when he’d actually refused to return, and of course it still has the charisma powerhouse that is Michael J. Fox, but I refuse to concede that the film is anywhere near as good as the first in terms of script.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:07 pm

Lord Golbez wrote:Uh, yes and the future part is not the best part of Back to the Future 2. It's the return to the past part, which is superb.

Who knew it would turn out to be a good depiction of 2G15 instead of 1G985

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:27 pm

Before Sunset is certainly equal to and maybe even better than its excellent predecessor, Before Sunrise.

People often cite the Godfather, Part 2, and indeed that’s a good example of an excellent sequel. Is it equal or superior to the original? I don’t know, it’s been a long time. I’d concede equal to, probably.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:34 pm

Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan is vastly superior to its terrible predecessor.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:47 pm

Oh yeah. I never really think of that as a sequel in the same way, since the Motion Picture was already continuing a TV series, but fair choice.

I’ve heard Evil Dead 2 is better than Evil Dead, but I’ve never seen either.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:36 pm

Winter Soldier was significantly better than the first Captain America and one of the best Marvel movies. Thor Ragnarok was way better than the first two Thor movies, neither of which were good.

I saw the first Evil Dead. It wasn't very good, so I easily believe the second was better.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:31 am

Oh! Blade Runner. The sequel was at least as good as the original in my opinion.

Also, I just watched Paddington finally after years of being perplexed at how beloved it is. It was indeed very good. I shall soon be watching the sequel, which many claim is better.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:41 am

I saw Paddington 2 on a plane. It’s boring.
Toy Story 3 is better than the first two.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:32 pm

Paddington 2 has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes, which I guess makes you the first person ever to give it a negative review.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:43 pm

Go watch it. There's absolutely nothing special about it.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:03 pm

I will! Did you see the first one?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:27 pm

I saw the first one in the cinema and it was better than I expected it to be. Was expecting a goofy CG animals on real world reboot like Chipmunks, Garfield and the like got.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:18 pm

Wheb I was a kid I thought Gremlins 2 was better than the first. Haven't seen either since I was little and don't know if I was right or if the second was just full of shark jumping bad ideas.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:43 pm

I rewatched first Gremlins a year or two ago. I haven’t rewatched Gremlins 2 but the trailer looks insane.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:21 am

Gremlins is a Christmas movie. Maybe I should watch it before the 12 days are up.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:07 am

I did watch it at Christmas (not this one).

Just watched Paddington 2. Not boring, and about equal to the first, which I also quite liked.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:26 am

Fits the category then, maybe.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:15 pm

As you mentioned in another thread, The Dark Knight qualifies.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:57 pm

Most of the Harry Potter films are better than the first one. This follows the books though. I'm surprised J.K. Rowling hasn't rewritten any of them yet.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:06 pm

I was gonna say Mou Gaan Dou but no, first on was definitely the best one of the trilogy.

Patlabor II was definitely better than the first one.
Ghost in the shell 2: innocence was better than the first one if I remember well.

I rewatched Gremlins and Gremlins 2 a few years back. I had a better appreciation of Gremlins 2 this time, although 1 is still best.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:37 am

Blade Runner 2049
Terminator 2
Fight Club the movie is better than the book if that counts?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:52 am

Terminator 2 is a good one. Fight Club doesn’t count. Films that are better than the books are a different subject altogether

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:25 pm

Fight Club 2: The Movie

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:21 pm

Fight Club 2: More MRAs

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:44 pm

Sektor Seven was better than SG

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:48 pm

That's the most clearly wrong thing said in this thread.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:47 pm

What a curiously delayed response.

Let’s add something new, shall we?

is at least as good as

gintanto · Post by **gintanto** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:00 am

TRON legacy was a thousand times better than Tron. So much so they buried the original before the sequel came out.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:17 am

A agree with Tron Legacy yeah. You should post that in the favourites of 2G+page thread while we’re still on 2G10!

B0N3M4N · Post by **B0N3M4N** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:15 pm

Aliens was at least as good as Alien.
LotR was pretty consistent across the three films
I only remember The Godfather 2 vaguely, but I think it may qualify.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:25 pm

Do films based on books cheat though by already having the source material existing and sequels planned out before the first film though? They were never just going to make Fellowship. Fellowship even contains some of the story of the next book to set it up better for the sequel.

B0N3M4N · Post by **B0N3M4N** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:37 pm

Interesting. Do we have book adaptation where the first part was awesome and the rest sucked? Totally hijacking the thread now, hehehehe.

I recall being disappointed by the ending of Watchmen, because the movie was so close to the original, and then they went and completely changed the ending.

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:58 pm

I’ve heard that of the Dune books.

But some people also like the sequels. I’ve only read the first so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

B0N3M4N · Post by **B0N3M4N** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 5:04 pm

Oooh, so we're deviating from the topic even further by moving away from movies now, I like it

Metro 2033 (the book) was pretty awesome, while the successor 2034 was kinda meh.