2G5-9: quality vs quantity

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:27 pm

Discuss

Joei · Post by **Joei** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:30 pm

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:11 pm

That depends on what you're talking about. This is too vague.

Chi · Post by **Chi** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:12 pm

Holy LJ spillover, Batman.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:16 pm

Lord Golbez wrote:That depends on what you're talking about. This is too vague.

I don't know, Chris told me to post that topic

In which cases would you choose quality rather than quantity, and vice-versa? What's more important to you?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:27 pm

You said you wouldn't post this

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:40 pm

I was bored

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:53 pm

Edit: The Hot Topics forum is supposed to be about quality over quantity but it happens to get neither

Renge Ishyo · Post by **Renge Ishyo** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:21 am

They are both spin words in the games industry to be sure.

When you hear a PR rep say, "We are focusing on quality" it generally means there is not enough quantity. Likewise, when you start hearing people say things like "We have X number of games coming out for our system by Christmas" it means they are focusing on quanity because the quality of most of those games is really bad.

In general, I DO think quality is the most important thing because 1 great game is always a more fun experience than a million crappy ones but then again I don't buy like 99% of the games that are actually released here in the USA so most of America apparently doesn't agree with me

(How's that for a horribly unpunctuated run on sentence?)

(Holy cow, I actually addressed the topic!)

anynomous · Post by **anynomous** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:31 am

Opinion: In porn collections, quantity > quality.
Reasoning: Tastes are many. In quantity one is bound to have quality for many tastes.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:00 am

Wise reasoning. But then why does 'quantity' have such a pejorative meaning?

When it come to games I tend to agree with you Renge, but it's mostly because games are so expensive I suppose..

If they were cheaper it might be different. And personnally I guess I'm more likely to buy a good game with tons of minigames (like WarioWare,...) than a good game with less variety. When does quantity turn into variety anyway?

Generally speaking, if for a price 'n' you had to choose between quantity and quality what would you choose, in which circumstances?

And in human interactions, for a similar emotional investment, would you rather go for one or the other? And is it bad to openly choose 'quantity'? Does choosing 'quality' make your life better, and if so, why?

Bazz · Post by **Bazz** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:23 pm

Calbrena wrote: Generally speaking, if for a price 'n' you had to choose between quantity and quality what would you choose, in which circumstances?

I'd rather have 1000 chicken nuggets then one chicken dinner in the Ritz. So in food terms it's quantity

Calbrena wrote: And in human interactions, for a similar emotional investment, would you rather go for one or the other? And is it bad to openly choose 'quantity'? Does choosing 'quality' make your life better, and if so, why?

For a similar emotional investment I'd want to interact with many fit girls then just one. Unless she was really good at interacting... In which case perhaps I'd pick the one girl... Tough choice.

Edit: Actually I thought about it. I'd interact with as many girls as possible, THEN interact with the quality girl. I was gonna do it the other way around, but it's harder to manage.

That's quality and quantity though... but I substituted some of the quality for quantity, I found a third way to do it! Half quality

On that note I'm off to the Ritz to buy as many chicken nuggets as they'll sell me for £10.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:55 pm

haha

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:06 pm

Do they have £5 a minute internet access and sell LCD games that you need to hold up to a window to see in the Ritz?

Arashi · Post by **Arashi** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:11 pm

QUANTITY! ARRRR MASS PRODUCTION!

Renge Ishyo · Post by **Renge Ishyo** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:09 am

Generally speaking, if for a price 'n' you had to choose between quantity and quality what would you choose, in which circumstances?

It depends. In the business world, it is generally cheaper to make things in quantity, which is one of the reasons why everything is so mass produced. If you made something really great, but only like one person could benefit from it what good is it to anybody but a collector? At the same time, I like it when things are really really well done. It's always sort of exciting when you see things "pushed" forward rather than just the same old mass produced crap we are used to (and that "push" doesn't exist unless someone wants to make something of a different quality than what is already out there). Hey, I didn't answer the question at all. Yay me!

Etch2 · Post by **Etch2** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:15 am

For SG, Quantity > Quality.

Quality usually fucks SG up.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:45 pm

I'd rather have quantity in food because I want to live rather than getting a great meal and then starving. I'd rather have quality in most things though I suppose.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 3:03 pm

what about tea?

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:59 pm

Um....quality.....and quantity!!!! I can't choose! I need both!

Vibing_V · Post by **Vibing_V** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:12 pm

I think we should create a formula for this quantity quality issue

It would be very complex though.

Or maybe it'd be more like an algorithm.

if (cost is applicable)
...while( cost <= pricelimit)
......if (quantity < needs)
.........quantity++
.........cost = cost + lowprice
......else
.........quality++
.........cost = cost + hiprice

but isn't there also a minimum quality factor to add in? For example, I like to eat on a cheap budget, but I don't go and have mcdick's because it doesn't meet my quality standard.

Bazz · Post by **Bazz** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:19 pm

Vibing_V wrote: but isn't there also a minimum quality factor to add in? For example, I like to eat on a cheap budget, but I don't go and have mcdick's because it doesn't meet my quality standard.

Your loss, hippy.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:52 pm

I have mc donalds when pikey vouchers or pedometres are involved

I think we could indeed create a formula, but I suck at maths so I'll let you guys do that

I think you're right though, a minimum quality factor has to be taken into account

And also maybe a 'necessity' factor? Guess we don't make the same choices when it comes to vital things...

I normaly choose qualitea, but for the teagame I tend to go for quantitea

Vibing_V · Post by **Vibing_V** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:09 pm

Twinings Earl Grey plz

Chi · Post by **Chi** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:42 am

Vibing_V wrote:Twinings Earl Grey plz

anynomous · Post by **anynomous** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:58 am

Fact: There is a code-tag implemented in SG.
Suggestion: Use it.

Code: Select all

if (cost is applicable)
   while( cost <= pricelimit)
      if (quantity < needs)
         quantity++
         cost = cost + lowprice
      else 
         quality++
         cost = cost + hiprice

Vibing_V · Post by **Vibing_V** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:39 am

yeah that looks better

DeathSeekr · Post by **DeathSeekr** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:03 am

think that it depends how many for how good. i mean like if something is good and you only get say 5. while say sometihng is crappy and you get 7 ill take the quality but if there is a big difference quantity.

Lap · Post by **Lap** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:41 pm

I choose Quantity. Firstly because I'm crazy, and secondly, because I'd rather have lots and lots of bad-average sex than just one night of amazing sex. And also if I do have one night of amazing sex I want more. So yeah, quantity.

Also I'd rather have a pile of 100 really rough and used £50 notes than one pristine, mint condition one.

Chi · Post by **Chi** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:41 pm

The quality of money is not related to its physical condition - as such, I'd rather have 1 £50 note (higher quality) than 10 £5 ones.

And I'd much rather have 1 night of amazing sex followed by 99 nights of wanking, then 100 nights of bad sex. Bad sex sucks.

You are right about being crazy tho ;p

I follow a pseudo-economic priniciple of maximal utility. If one item of high quality gives me at least as much (or preferably more) utility than dozens of low quality ones, then I go for the higher quality one.

Lap · Post by **Lap** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:14 pm

Where games is concerned, I'd much rather have one good game than 100 bad ones.

So the 'quality vs. quantity' arguement should never be discussed ever again as no one can ever say which one they prefer more. I did because I'm crazy.

Bazz · Post by **Bazz** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:53 pm

Chi wrote:The quality of money is not related to its physical condition - as such, I'd rather have 1 £50 note (higher quality) than 10 £5 ones.

You'll regret that when you're trying to get on the night bus home with a £50 note and the driver laughs in your face.

DeathSeekr · Post by **DeathSeekr** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:13 pm

Bazz wrote:
Chi wrote:The quality of money is not related to its physical condition - as such, I'd rather have 1 £50 note (higher quality) than 10 £5 ones.
You'll regret that when you're trying to get on the night bus home with a £50 note and the driver laughs in your face.

true

Chi · Post by **Chi** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:17 pm

Bazz wrote:You'll regret that when you're trying to get on the night bus home with a £50 note and the driver laughs in your face.

Oyster, motherfucker! ;p

Renge Ishyo · Post by **Renge Ishyo** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:20 pm

And I'd much rather have 1 night of amazing sex followed by 99 nights of wanking, then 100 nights of bad sex. Bad sex sucks.

Amen

In fact, I'd rather have 100 nights of wanking than even one night of bad sex (after all, I'd treat myself better than a lousy partner would

).

Vibing_V · Post by **Vibing_V** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:51 am

Well, if they want a good lay they won't go after virgins, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Renge Ishyo · Post by **Renge Ishyo** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:09 am

Well, if they want a good lay they won't go after virgins, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Won't be too sure about that. I remember when I lost my virginity, seemed like she was pretty happy for err...at least 10 seconds or so...

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:33 am

How do you know she wasn't faking it?

As for 1 night of good sex vs 100 nights of bad sex, I think you forget an important factor.

Like, surely there must be some kind of improvement between the 1st and 100th night?

Mitsurugi CP · Post by **Mitsurugi CP** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:00 pm

Compare these two scenarios (quality vs quantity): A pig orgasm lasts approximately 20-30 minutes, but a male lion will have sex as many as 50 times a day. So would you rather be the pig or the lion?

Calbrena wrote:How do you know she wasn't faking it?

Burned!

Calbrena wrote:As for 1 night of good sex vs 100 nights of bad sex, I think you forget an important factor. Like, surely there must be some kind of improvement between the 1st and 100th night?

We also have to consider whether it was with 1 person or 100, or somewhere inbetween. And we also have to consider whether it's 100 nights consecutively, or 100 nights randomly spaced out. I'd imagine if you screwed 100 nights in a row, at least in the case of a man, it would slowly reduce your ability and performance as time went on.

Selma · Post by **Selma** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:15 pm

Mitsurugi CP wrote:Compare these two scenarios (quality vs quantity): A pig orgasm lasts approximately 20-30 minutes, but a male lion will have sex as many as 50 times a day. So would you rather be the pig or the lion?

I'd rather have my opposable thumbs, thanks.

Lock and load, motherfucker!!!

Renge Ishyo · Post by **Renge Ishyo** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:36 pm

How do you know she wasn't faking it?

Because it's rather difficult to fake being upset after it ended so fast (wait, that doesn't really make it better for me does it

). The sad thing is I was a virgin so I didn't understand that it was "over," my lady knew much more about these things than I did at the time

As for 1 night of good sex vs 100 nights of bad sex, I think you forget an important factor. Like, surely there must be some kind of improvement between the 1st and 100th night?

Improvement factor? Surely you have not seen what the educational system is like here in the USA

Chi · Post by **Chi** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:44 pm

Renge Ishyo wrote:
Well, if they want a good lay they won't go after virgins, so I wouldn't worry about that.
Won't be too sure about that. I remember when I lost my virginity, seemed like she was pretty happy for err...at least 10 seconds or so...

That'd be bad sex, tbh.

Lap · Post by **Lap** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:47 pm

Improvement with practise huh? I find watching pornography very educational too.

I don't know why I'm still taking part in this dicussion. There is nothing left to say.

Chi · Post by **Chi** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:51 pm

Lap wrote:Improvement with practise huh? I find watching pornography very educational too.

Pr0n has as much to do with learning how to be a good lay, as watching Anime does to learning Japanese.

Calbrena · Post by **Calbrena** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:15 pm

Wait, you can actually learn a couple of things by watching animes...

DeathSeekr · Post by **DeathSeekr** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:17 pm

Calbrena wrote:Wait, you can actually learn a couple of things by watching animes...

depends wat kind

Bazz · Post by **Bazz** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:39 pm

Mitsurugi CP wrote: I'd imagine if you screwed 100 nights in a row, at least in the case of a man, it would slowly reduce your ability and performance as time went on.

I don't think that would be the case. In fact your general standard of fitness would probably rise, so after 100 days you'd be like a wild beast

Around the end of the first week you might be a bit tired though.

DeathSeekr · Post by **DeathSeekr** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:41 pm

Bazz wrote:
Mitsurugi CP wrote: I'd imagine if you screwed 100 nights in a row, at least in the case of a man, it would slowly reduce your ability and performance as time went on.
I don't think that would be the case. In fact your general standard of fitness would probably rise, so after 100 days you'd be like a wild beast Around the end of the first week you might be a bit tired though.

haha wild beast…but I think (cause um im not old enough to ya…) after 100 nights in a row you’d be tired as hell depending how long each time is or how many times a night.

Renge Ishyo · Post by **Renge Ishyo** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:15 pm

Bazz wrote:
Mitsurugi CP wrote: I'd imagine if you screwed 100 nights in a row, at least in the case of a man, it would slowly reduce your ability and performance as time went on.
I don't think that would be the case. In fact your general standard of fitness would probably rise, so after 100 days you'd be like a wild beast Around the end of the first week you might be a bit tired though.

Besides, if your performance waivered there is always Viagra

That'd be bad sex, tbh.

I had to make it up to her later to be sure