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NEWSWORTHY SUIKODEN NEWS

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Rabbit & Bear Studios, a Tokyo-based studio formed by key creators of the Suikoden series, has announced Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes, an ambitious new RPG planned for release in fall 2022. A Kickstarter campaign seeking $500,000 USD in funding for a PC release—with a single stretch goal to unlock PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X, and Switch versions (or next-gen Switch, if one is available)—will run from July 27 at 9:00 a.m. PT / 12:00 p.m. ET to August 28. A trailer will also debut when the campaign launches.

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/07/suikode ... tch-and-pc
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Definitely looks good but I’m sick of Kickstarter campaigns so will probably just patiently wait to buy it from a place where I usually buy games.
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I only kickstart board games now
which are more expensive than video games, but what'll you do
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The art looks good and Suikoden like. The pictures of gameplay screens look like shitty phone game stuff. It definitely has the potential to be good with Suikoden creators involved, but one of my biggest issues with the Suikoden series dying is that story will never be completed. No spiritual successor can solve that.
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I didn’t realize the story mattered that much past Suikoden 2 :nub2
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Won’t be worse than Suikoden 4 and 5 and will probably be better than all the suikoden games :shrug
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Um....Suikoden 5 was probably the second best. Suikoden 4 was easily and far and away the worst. Why are you lumping them together?

It would be a great surprise if it were better than Suikoden 5, and I'd happily settle for better than the first one and 4. It won't be better than Suikoden 2, I can easily and emphatically say that. Suikoden 2 is one of the greatest games of all time. It's extremely rare to see anything on par with it, and assuming that a game is "probably" going to be as good as or better than it is like expecting lightning to strike twice in the same place.
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Idk I felt 4 was good because boats
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:frust

The story mattered at least until 3 in terms of continuity by the way and to some lesser degree in 4 and 5 due to recurring characters. But mostly it's the fact that there were recurring plot threads/myteries throughout that were never resolved including what the deal is with Yuber and Pemerga, Jeane, and Viki. In term of overarching story, they were definitely building to some conflict involving Harmonia, but Harmonia never featured as a location you could travel to in any of the games and there's the whole mystery of the Sindar civilization.
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I tried playing suikodens 1 one time and got bored on the first play and never played it again :nub2
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5 bored me to sleep so many times, I gave up. The load times were awful and I can only remember the main character because he was also in a pop’n music game that came out around the same time.
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Post by Fei Ayanami »

My mom played... all of the suikodens?? guess I could just check which ones I have. :p
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Looks like this game will fail then if the people who like Suikoden the most aren't interested.
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I don't do kickstart anyway on principal. If the only thing I'm getting for investing is the game or some merch like that, don't make me pay more than retail. If you want actual investments, treat me like an actual investor.

As far as whether I'd buy the game or not, it's just too early to say. They would do better to match the graphical style of the first two games over using shitty mobile game looking sprites though.
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I guess Konami still own some form of copyright over aspects of Suikoden though.
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It easily reached its goal and i'm sure i'll get it when it comes out but I don't care all that much.

The only thing bad about Suikoden 5 really was the load times. I can see how that would sour ones impressions of the game. The guy at Konami who helped get the other 4 games re-released on PSN said there was a reason he couldn't go into as to why its unlikely 5 would get re-released. Wonder what that is? I would have liked it with improved loading times as its the only Suikoden I played through once and never again.
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It's the only Suikoden I didn't play to the end :heh
I didn't beat the last boss of IV, but I played to the end. Fuck that boss!
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Fuck everything about Suikoden IV. That's the only one I haven't played through more than once and I made damn sure to get all 108 stars first time through (I usually don't and just get whichever stars I find first time) because I knew I wouldn't be playing it again.
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Best thing about Suikoden IV was that there were characters that looked like Bon3m4n and his girlfriend. That's kind of irrelevant now though. I imagine it's aged poorly too.
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WaWard wrote:Idk I felt 4 was good because boats
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Suikoden owns
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I started replaying S1 on my PS Vita (Vita means life). And yeah, other than crude item/equipment/store menus, it holds up.
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Guess the better than SNES 16-BIT-ish style (rather than blocky early polygons) helps.
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I always really enjoyed the 2D sprite on 3D background look from that era. Games like Breath of Fire 4 still looks incredible.
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They're re-releasing Suikoden and Suikoden II.
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My guess is the remastered will look worse. I've never cared for the way the sprites pop out against the background in remasters these days. Eiyuden screenshots I saw also looked weird for this reason.
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My guess is that despite making it worse than the originals, it’s going to be better than Persona 5
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Well, considering Suikoden 2 is one of my top 3 games of all time, I don't even disagree. :l
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Looks pretty good. I may pick this up. I've never played the originals but always heard great things.
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Okay, it actually does look good.
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Wonder if the series will go anywhere from here :?
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I Hope so :frenchy
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