Final Fantasy XII: Hit or Miss?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:59 pm

So everybody here (bar a few of the underloved European gamers) appears to have formed an opinion on the final PS2 installment of the ever-popular Final Fantasy series.
Let's get it down in useless poll form!

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:10 pm

Miss Undine!

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:55 pm

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:39 pm

I voted yes, but the answer should've been, 'yes, but not as much as TP, cause I was 5 hours in when garbo spoiled it for me'

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:38 am

What are the spoilers for FF12? It's not as easy to sum up spoilers as some other entries in the series.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:15 am

haha. How is it possible to spoil FFXII?

here's an ff12 spoiler

[spoiler]upon dungeon crawling a dungeon for a few hours, the reward was the characters agreeing they should head to their next location. Nothing in the way of character development at all.[/spoiler]

In fact, that's what happens the entirety of FFXII! That's the story!

Garbo · Post by **Garbo** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:05 am

that's funny

you're a funny guy

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:48 am

YOU SPOILED IT FOR ME~

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:34 pm

It's true. There really is very little of substance in FFXII. It's kind of like they decided to go with some cliches and didn't even bother to at least flesh it out from there, so instead of a cliched story you're left with just cliche, but no story.

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:49 pm

Should have mine next week, so I'll let you after that.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:00 pm

Yuka! You should come to the UK launch thingy with us!

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:01 pm

Lord Golbez wrote:It's true. There really is very little of substance in FFXII. It's kind of like they decided to go with some cliches and didn't even bother to at least flesh it out from there, so instead of a cliched story you're left with just cliche, but no story.

sounds like every other ff ever made

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:43 pm

while that's true, he's right. ff12 doesn't really have anything to spoil.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:06 pm

No, not really. I made a distinction. I acknowledge that other FFs are cliched, but they do have stories. FFXII hardly does.

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:23 pm

In 5 days time I really hope I'm going to be the lamer who's all 'Well I really like it!'

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:41 pm

well it's pretty good at the beginning, so you shouldn't really judge early

herf

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:00 pm

I'm notorious for liking bad games.
It's why my opinion means very little in the Uni Games Lab whenever I'm slagging off whatever MMO or LAN-FPS everyone except me is playing.

Plaztik · Post by **Plaztik** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:01 pm

WaWard wrote:
Lord Golbez wrote:It's true. There really is very little of substance in FFXII. It's kind of like they decided to go with some cliches and didn't even bother to at least flesh it out from there, so instead of a cliched story you're left with just cliche, but no story.
sounds like every other ff ever made

o lol you, mr. Grumpy

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:06 pm

yuka wrote:I'm notorious for liking bad games.
It's why my opinion means very little in the Uni Games Lab whenever I'm slagging off whatever MMO or LAN-FPS everyone except me is playing.

maybe THEY'RE the ones who like bad games?

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:45 pm

himurokoken wrote:
yuka wrote:I'm notorious for liking bad games.
It's why my opinion means very little in the Uni Games Lab whenever I'm slagging off whatever MMO or LAN-FPS everyone except me is playing.
maybe THEY'RE the ones who like bad games?

This is true. WoW? Half-Life? Fuck off.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:47 pm

lol Half Life is one of the few fps' worth talking about!

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:51 pm

Naaah. More people should descushion about TimeSplitters.

Mainly because you can play as a bear and a lion.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:55 pm

Fucking furry!

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:55 pm

but in HL2 you have the gravity gun. you can use it to pick up random shit on the ground like saws and shoot them at your enemies and cut them in half!

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:58 pm

Damien wrote:Fucking furry!

...........

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:28 pm

himurokoken wrote:lol Half Life is one of the few fps' worth talking about!

except not. go back playing your irrelevant games, irrelevant poster.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:06 pm

No, it's true. Most fps' suck dick. Half Life owns, however. It, Chronicles of Riddick and Bioshock are the only fps' worth talking about!

Halo sucks.

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:09 pm

I think we can agree on 'Halo Sucks'

Overrated bullcrap

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:17 pm

Halo isn't all bad.

Yuka · Post by **Yuka** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:21 pm

But it's most definately overrated, yes.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:28 pm

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:12 pm

himurokoken wrote:No, it's true. Most fps' suck dick. Half Life owns, however. It, Chronicles of Riddick and Bioshock are the only fps' worth talking about!

Halo sucks.

most games suck dick. so how are fps games any different? then again, I shouldn't expect you to know what you're talking about videogames.

and halo fucking rules/d. you guys are fucking retards.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:13 am

Most games suck, but it is rare that a truly creative fps' comes out. It is by far by the most by the numbers than any genre out there, except maybe puzzle and sport games, and rpgs, but with rpgs you typically see creativity pop up much more often than fps'.

I have nothing against any genre, because I like every genre. Except sports games and sim racers - they suck - but first person shooters are so "me too".

Of course there are some games that use first person as a means, but they aren't technically fps', such as System Shock, Metroid Prime, Oblivion, and Deux Ex, but they don't count because they're not first person shooters!

Halo is average fluff.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:29 am

himurokoken wrote:Most games suck, but it is rare that a truly creative fps' comes out.

Sounds like most games again. Retard.

but with rpgs you typically see creativity pop up much more often than fps'.

you compare a genre that's been stagnating for 10 years against one that's been stagnating for 5. And you pretend that the first has the upper hand. Retard.

I have nothing against any genre, because I like every genre. Except sports games and sim racers - they suck - but first person shooters are so "me too".

I don't care because as I have expressed above, you are a retard.

Of course there are some games that use first person as a means, but they aren't technically fps', such as System Shock, Metroid Prime, Oblivion, and Deux Ex, but they don't count because they're not first person shooters!

I'm sure you haven't played half of those retard.

Halo is average fluff.

That's it, you've convinced me. I'm going to sell my copy, because thanks to your life-altering post, I've become a retard too! I'm sure that all games journalist, developers trying to mimic the game's successes, and customers who couldn't get enough of it will become retards too!

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:32 am

Hahaha. Guys get a load of this right here.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:40 am

WaWard wrote:Sounds like most games again. Retard.

That is true, because a good majority of games published are fps!

you compare a genre that's been stagnating for 10 years against one that's been stagnating for 5. And you pretend that the first has the upper hand. Retard.

Stagnating? How have rpgs been stagnating in the past 10 years? If anything, they've gotten better. These days, almost all rpgs released have their own quirk and they don't feel me too.

I don't care because as I have expressed above, you are a retard.

Is it your time of the month?

I'm sure you haven't played half of those retard.

While it is true I haven't played Deux Ex or System Shock yet, just reading up on them shows that they're far more creative than 90% of the first person shooter genre.

That's it, you've convinced me. I'm going to sell my copy, because thanks to your life-altering post, I've become a retard too! I'm sure that all games journalist, developers trying to mimic the game's successes, and customers who couldn't get enough of it will become retards too!

Wow. Ward is looking like a fucking baby tonight. As if that means a thing too. Wow, critical claim and success mean A+ shit, am i rite? Halo has a pretty good multiplayer, but that's just about it. I don't understand how Halo is so good, especially if you've spent time with pc fps before it's release.

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