Japanese's tasting in gaming = teh suck

[WaWard]

Here's their Top 100 selling games for 2005. No hip-hop crap, but case in point, just as much crap.

1. DS Animal Crossing Nintendo 1,169,757
2. PS2 Gran Turismo 4 SCE 1,066,749
3. DS Train Your Brain Nintendo 1,011,341
4. DS Nintendogs Nintendo 965,665
5. PS2 Winning Eleven 9 Konami 923,288
6. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 Koei 917,985
7. DS Brain Flex Nintendo 875,371
8. DS Tamagotchi Bandai 770,391
9. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II Square Enix 737,652
10. DS Mario Kart DS Nintendo 669,575
11. PS2 Dragon Ball Z 3 Bandai 642,424
12. GBA Mushi King Sega 629,902
13. PS2 Super Robot Wars Alpha 3 Banpresto 602,695
14. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Bandai 532,690
15. DS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon Blue Pokemon 521,380
16. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon Red Pokemon 517,484
17. DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo 505,254 855,5565
18. PS2 Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution Konami 468,242
19. DS Jump Super Stars Nintendo 464,076
20. GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. Nintendo 457,558 1,034,264
21. PS2 Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song Square Enix 454,657
22. DS Super Mario 64 DS Nintendo 447,505 814,108
23. PS2 Tales Of The Abyss Namco 440,225
24. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: The One Year War Bandai 436,411
25. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 12 Konami 433,535
26. GBA Rockman EXE 6: Faltzer / Greiga Capcom 432,119
27. PS2 Gundam Seed: Federation vs. Z.A.F.T. Bandai 417,191
28. PS2 BioHazard 4 Capcom 370,580
29. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 Xtreme Legends Koei 355,296
30. PS2 Tales of Legendia Namco 342,779
31. GC Mario Party 7 Nintendo 329,633
32. GBA Pokemon Emerald Pokemon 319,837 1,654,858
33. PS2 Tekken 5 Namco 317,357
34. PS2 Dragon Quest VIII Square Enix 307,572 3,538,860
35. DS Daredemo Asobi Taizen Nintendo 301,809
36. PS2 Rogue Galaxy SCE 299,310
37. PS2 Radiata Stories Square Enix 293,413
38. PS2 Devil May Cry 3 Capcom 281,025
39. DS Touch! Kirby Nintendo 276,418
40. PSP Hot Shots Golf Portable SCE 268,173 399,161
41. PS2 Another Century's Episode Banpresto 254,527
42. GBA Mario Party Advance Nintendo 241,721
43. PS2 Daito Pachi-Slot Yoshimune Daito 241,277 510,555
44. PS2 Grandia III Square Enix 233,866
45. PSP Monster Hunter Portable Capcom 233,783
46. GC Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen ! 4 Tomy 233,107
47. PS2 Ryu ga Gotoku Sega 232,650
48. PS2 Monster Hunter G Capcom 232,239
49. GC Pokemon Pokemon 232,196
50. GC BioHazard 4 Capcom 220,799
51. DS Pokemon Torouze Pokemon 215,038
52. DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 Tomy 212,655
53. PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE 212,534
54. GC Super Mario Stadium Miracle Baseball Nintendo 211,661
55. GBA Rockman EXE 5: Team of Blues Capcom 211,099 415,630
56. PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Konami 209,674 819,807
57. PS2 Drag On Dragoon 2 Square Enix 203,336
58. GBA Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green Pokemon 202,800 2,580,513
59. PSP Winning Eleven 9 Konami 202,176
60. PS2 Jissen Pachi-Slot Fist of North Star Sega 201,367
61. DS Touch! Catch! Yoshi Nintendo 197,337
62. PSP Dynasty Warriors Koei 195,473 333,223
63. GC StarFox Assault Nintendo 195,407
64. PS2 DQ & FF in Itadaki Street Special Square Enix 194,673 350,452
65. GBA Rockman EXE 5: Team of Colonel Capcom 194,472
66. PS2 Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3 Bandai 194,372
67. PSP Tales Of Eternia Namco 193,458
68. PS2 Naruto: Uzumaki Ninden Bandai 191,077
69. PS2 Wanda to Kyozou SCE 190,916
70. PS2 Ratchet & Clank 4th SCE 187,773
71. PS2 Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator SCE 186,221
72. PSP Brain Trainer Portable Sega 185,199
73. PS2 Daito Pachi-Slot Ossu! Banchou Daito 184,440
74. PS2 Gundam Seed Destiny Generation of C.E. Bandai 181,576
75. GBA Super Robot Taisen J Banpresto 180,503
76. PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai 180,386
77. PS2 Berwick Saga Enterbrain 177,202
78. DS Slime MoriMori: Dragon Quest 2 Square Enix 176,218
79. PS2 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2 Konami 175,660
80. DS Pokemon Dash Pokemon 171,286 348,285
81. PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom 167,445
82. DS Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Ressen Bandai 165,599
83. GBA Super Robot Taisen Original Gen 2 Banpresto 164,884
84. PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 81 D3 164,586
85. PSP Ridge Racers Namco 158,265 308,675
86. GC Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki Nintendo 156,413
87. PS2 Summon Night EX Thesis Banpresto 153,962
88. GC Mario Party 6 Nintendo 153,682 527,132
89. PS2 Tales Of Rebirth Namco 152,551 596,493
90. PS2 Momotarou Densetsu 15 Hudson 149,550
91. PS2 Sakura Taisen 5 Sega 144,668
92. PS2 Tengai Makyou III: Namida Hudson 144,415
93. DS Super Princess Peach Nintendo 142,684
94. GC Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 3 Tomy 139,212 404,951
95. GBA Final Fantasy IV Advance Square Enix 134,418
96. PS2 Namco x Capcom Namco 131,615
97. PS2 Rumble Roses Konami 129,021
98. PS2 Baseball Live 2005 Namco 128,221
99. PSP Ape Escape Academy SCE 127,679
100. PS2 Saint Seiya: Chapter Sanctuary Bandai 127,509

Nintendo 64 port FTW

[HKK]

haha but their taste is better than american's....unfortunately.

[WaWard]

yeah... except not.

[HKK]

Are you serious? The top American sales charts is full of sports games and bullshit like 50 Cent Bulletproof.

[Doom]

both markets have their blockbuster mainstream crap and each would consider the other ridiculous

what's the point of this

[Garbo]

yeah really just because it doesnt have bioware games on there

[HKK]

both markets have their blockbuster mainstream crap and each would consider the other ridiculous

what's the point of this

Point taken. But still, I'd rather play crap jappy mainstream shit than stuff like 50 cent bulletproof

[Joei]

now that's a lie

[Damien]

My mini reviews
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1. DS Animal Crossing Nintendo
2. PS2 Gran Turismo 4 SCE
3. DS Train Your Brain Nintendo
4. DS Nintendogs Nintendo
5. PS2 Winning Eleven 9 Konami
6. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 Koei
7. DS Brain Flex Nintendo
8. DS Tamagotchi Bandai
9. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II Square Enix
10. DS Mario Kart DS Nintendo
11. PS2 Dragon Ball Z 3 Bandai
12. GBA Mushi King Sega
13. PS2 Super Robot Wars Alpha 3 Banpresto
14. PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking! Bandai
15. DS Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon Blue Pokemon
16. GBA Pokemon Mysterious Dungeon Red Pokemon
17. DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo
18. PS2 Winning Eleven 8: Liveware Evolution Konami
19. DS Jump Super Stars Nintendo
20. GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. Nintendo
21. PS2 Romancing Saga: Minstrel Song Square Enix
22. DS Super Mario 64 DS Nintendo
23. PS2 Tales Of The Abyss Namco
24. PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: The One Year War Bandai
25. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 12 Konami
26. GBA Rockman EXE 6: Faltzer / Greiga Capcom
27. PS2 Gundam Seed: Federation vs. Z.A.F.T. Bandai
28. PS2 BioHazard 4 Capcom
29. PS2 Dynasty Warriors 5 Xtreme Legends Koei
30. PS2 Tales of Legendia Namco
31. GC Mario Party 7 Nintendo
32. GBA Pokemon Emerald Pokemon
33. PS2 Tekken 5 Namco
34. PS2 Dragon Quest VIII Square Enix
35. DS Daredemo Asobi Taizen Nintendo
36. PS2 Rogue Galaxy SCE
37. PS2 Radiata Stories Square Enix
38. PS2 Devil May Cry 3 Capcom
39. DS Touch! Kirby Nintendo
40. PSP Hot Shots Golf Portable SCE
41. PS2 Another Century's Episode Banpresto
42. GBA Mario Party Advance Nintendo
43. PS2 Daito Pachi-Slot Yoshimune Daito
44. PS2 Grandia III Square Enix
45. PSP Monster Hunter Portable Capcom
46. GC Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen ! 4 Tomy
47. PS2 Ryu ga Gotoku Sega
48. PS2 Monster Hunter G Capcom
49. GC Pokemon Pokemon
50. GC BioHazard 4 Capcom
51. DS Pokemon Torouze Pokemon
52. DS Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshuu 3 Tomy
53. PS2 Ape Escape 3 SCE
54. GC Super Mario Stadium Miracle Baseball Nintendo
55. GBA Rockman EXE 5: Team of Blues Capcom
56. PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Konami
57. PS2 Drag On Dragoon 2 Square Enix
58. GBA Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green Pokemon
59. PSP Winning Eleven 9 Konami
60. PS2 Jissen Pachi-Slot Fist of North Star Sega
61. DS Touch! Catch! Yoshi Nintendo
62. PSP Dynasty Warriors Koei
63. GC StarFox Assault Nintendo
64. PS2 DQ & FF in Itadaki Street Special Square Enix
65. GBA Rockman EXE 5: Team of Colonel Capcom
66. PS2 Naruto: Narutimate Hero 3 Bandai
67. PSP Tales Of Eternia Namco
68. PS2 Naruto: Uzumaki Ninden Bandai
69. PS2 Wanda to Kyozou SCE
70. PS2 Ratchet & Clank 4th SCE
71. PS2 Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator SCE
72. PSP Brain Trainer Portable Sega
73. PS2 Daito Pachi-Slot Ossu! Banchou Daito
74. PS2 Gundam Seed Destiny Generation of C.E. Bandai
75. GBA Super Robot Taisen J Banpresto
76. PS2 Gundam True Odyssey Bandai
77. PS2 Berwick Saga Enterbrain
78. DS Slime MoriMori: Dragon Quest 2 Square Enix
79. PS2 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2 Konami
80. DS Pokemon Dash Pokemon
81. PS2 Sengoku Basara Capcom
82. DS Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Ressen Bandai
83. GBA Super Robot Taisen Original Gen 2 Banpresto
84. PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 81 D3
85. PSP Ridge Racers Namco
86. GC Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki Nintendo
87. PS2 Summon Night EX Thesis Banpresto
88. GC Mario Party 6 Nintendo
89. PS2 Tales Of Rebirth Namco
90. PS2 Momotarou Densetsu 15 Hudson
91. PS2 Sakura Taisen 5 Sega
92. PS2 Tengai Makyou III: Namida Hudson
93. DS Super Princess Peach Nintendo
94. GC Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 3 Tomy
95. GBA Final Fantasy IV Advance Square Enix
96. PS2 Namco x Capcom Namco
97. PS2 Rumble Roses Konami
98. PS2 Baseball Live 2005 Namco
99. PSP Ape Escape Academy SCE
100. PS2 Saint Seiya: Chapter Sanctuary Bandai
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I like how about half od that list are Natuto, Gundam, and DBZ games

[Renge Ishyo]

Are you serious? The top American sales charts is full of sports games and bullshit like 50 Cent Bulletproof.

Ward is just pissed because there isn't a *single* Xbox game in the entire Japanese top 100. Not only that, it actually looks like the DS is doing very well in Japan

[WaWard]

Are you serious? The top American sales charts is full of sports games and bullshit like 50 Cent Bulletproof.

Some sports games are actually good. Whether you like them or not is your problem. And in japan replace rapper games by anime games.

Yeah, sounds so much better.

[WaWard]

both markets have their blockbuster mainstream crap and each would consider the other ridiculous

what's the point of this

to point out to SG japanophiles that Japan's gaming tastes aren't any better or worse, and seeing the replies, it was quite justified. notice how I've never claimed that American taste in gaming is so much better (and I won't either).

[WaWard]

Are you serious? The top American sales charts is full of sports games and bullshit like 50 Cent Bulletproof.

Ward is just pissed because there isn't a *single* Xbox game in the entire Japanese top 100. Not only that, it actually looks like the DS is doing very well in Japan

Do you seriously expected me to expect an Xbox game on that list? Are you so stupid to assume that I am that dumb?

[Doom]

man i want to triple post like that

[Pendragon]

And in japan replace rapper games by anime games.

Yeah, sounds so much better.

IMO it does sound better, and not just by a little bit.

[WaWard]

so you like shitty licensed games when they feature characters with big eyes?

[Pendragon]

I admit that anime titles are half-assed games with little to no longevity, but at least I can usually enjoy the mindless entertainment for a few hours before tiring of it.

Personally, that's a lot more then I can say about rap titles...

[WaWard]

not really. gullible rap-fans would disagree, and so would people that hate/like both. licensed games tend to be shitty, regardless of what the license is (of course there are exceptions to the rule, but they are exceptionably exceptional!)

[Pendragon]

I'm only talking about myself, that's why I said 'Personally' & IMO. I don't presume to dictate other people’s tastes in games.

Besides, it's obvious there are people that like rap games. If nobody liked rap games they wouldn't sell and thus they'd stop making em.

[Jeff 2G6]

I'd have to agree that alot of those games (minus the ones I've never even heard of), I think are shit I'd either never played ,or have played and blow ass.

Madden isn't even on there. WTF NUBS?

[Renge Ishyo]

Do you seriously expected me to expect an Xbox game on that list? Are you so stupid to assume that I am that dumb?

It was expected that (considering your luv for the Xbox) you would disagree with a Japanese market that would rather play something like Simple 2000 Series Vol. 81 over ANY Xbox game, yes.

man i want to triple post like that

Put 'em all together and you have a full paragraph

The funny thing is that Ward actually posted a "joke" post predicting this result a few months back (comparing an Xbox 360 game to the original Super Mario Bros.): http://www.squaregamer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=809

And low and behold:
20. GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. Nintendo 457,558 1,034,264

[WaWard]

I'd have to agree that alot of those games (minus the ones I've never even heard of), I think are shit I'd either never played ,or have played and blow ass.

Madden isn't even on there. WTF NUBS?

you just hate japan, which means you are uncool like me. HAY LETS PLAY RAPPER GAMES

[HKK]

haha

[Joei]

i only like games straight outta bosnia

[Damien]

I personally think that most licenced Japanese games have had more effort put into the gameplay than most licenced American (or shall we say Western in general) games.
This is due to the simple fact that gaming is more mainstream in Japan and good games with no movie, cartoob, or indeed rapper behind them also do well in the charts.
I've played neither the latest 50cent or Naruto games and I'm nt a huge anime fag but I'd bet anybody 10p that the latetr is more playable, and not just because it's got bright colours and Japanese voices.

[Renge Ishyo]

Both markets are dissapointing at times. I have always liked the Japanese market more because the games I tended to like always seemed to do better there than over here (which meant that more of what I like would be made), but this wasn't always true. I remember when Klonoa 2 came out on the PS2 many moons ago. It was an awesome game, and Namco (rightfully so) expected to sell a bunch of copies (400,000) I think it was to make back their investment for making such a game. It was released in Japan, and the japanese audience practically puked on it (sold something like 20,000-50,000 copies). The 2D platformer for the PS2 practically died on the spot.

It has also affected Squaresoft as well. Part of the downfall of Square was when the Japanese gamers stopped buying non-FF Square games like Vagrant Story. The result was that Square stopped taking chances making these high budget side games and concentrated on FF. The result was that I had less to look forward too (okay, maybe Dew Prism deserved to do poorly but at least Chrono Trigger/Cross should have had another sequel at some point).

[Seifer Almasy]

Why do you make such gay topics sticky?

You're just mad that nintendo is cleaning up in japan which more or less secures their future for a while longer.

[WaWard]

Why do you make such gay topics sticky?

You're just mad that nintendo is cleaning up in japan which more or less secures their future for a while longer.

Yes, that is it. I just hate Nintendo enough to make every single topic I make about them. Wake up, fanboy, this isn't a topic about Nintendo. It's a topic about japanese sales as a whole, and how they're not much better in terms of sales->quality than what we see here.

[Renge Ishyo]

Wake up, fanboy, this isn't a topic about Nintendo. It's a topic about japanese sales as a whole

But that still makes it a thread about Nintendo indirectly (because their games are actually selling )

[Pendragon]

Careful Renge, doesn't seem like Ward's in the joking mood right now...

[Renge Ishyo]

Oh c'mon now, the Japanese bought 200,000 copies of "Touch! Catch! Yoshi."
Whether you like Nintendo or not, how can anybody be bent out of shape because of something like that?

[Questionmarktarius]

The Japanese gave us Street Fighter, Kunio-Kun, Mother, and Katamari Damacy. Anyone who doubts that judgement can go to hell and die.

[Renge Ishyo]

The Japanese gave us Street Fighter, Kunio-Kun, Mother, and Katamari Damacy. Anyone who doubts that judgement can go to hell and die.

Street Fighter --->

Rest --->

[Damien]

(okay, maybe Dew Prism deserved to do poorly but at least Chrono Trigger/Cross should have had another sequel at some point).

I loved DewPrism

[WaWard]

Careful Renge, doesn't seem like Ward's in the joking mood right now...

No, I just think Seifer is that much of an idiot.

[WaWard]

The Japanese gave us Street Fighter, Kunio-Kun, Mother, and Katamari Damacy. Anyone who doubts that judgement can go to hell and die.

They also gave us Xenosaga, which means they "can go to hell and die".

[Damien]

The Japanese gave us Street Fighter, Kunio-Kun, Mother, and Katamari Damacy. Anyone who doubts that judgement can go to hell and die.

They also gave us Xenosaga, which means they "can go to hell and die".

I liked that too

[Yuka]

Give me 3-5 days and you'll get the Yuka review for XS2

[Damien]

Give me 3-5 days and you'll get the Yuka review for XS2

I can reviw (spoil) it for you now YA MORON!

[WaWard]

Give me 3-5 days and you'll get the Yuka review for XS2

ward's review: it probably still sux cuz xs fans said it's worse than the original.

[Yuka]

No!
Your FFXII Demo was enough for me.

[Yuka]

Give me 3-5 days and you'll get the Yuka review for XS2

ward's review: it probably still sux cuz xs fans said it's worse than the original.

Maybe I'll wait for my other games to review then.

Edit: How lovely is this?

[Damien]

Rubbish

[Yuka]

What, the DS? I think its nice.

[Pendragon]

I loved DewPrism

I really enjoyed Dew Prism as well.

No, I just think Seifer is that much of an idiot.

If that's true then you went to a pretty lengthy extreme just to prove a point.

[Damien]

What, the DS? I think its nice.

I suppose it'd be different for those of us with huge hands...

[Yuka]

Argh!

[Damien]

You gonna give us a more usuable pic?
Thought not

[Yuka]

I would if I could. But all the pictures are in Leicester, and I'm in Lincoln.

[Seifer Almasy]

You think anyone who dosn't identify with your narrow crapservative pro asshole views is an idiot. And you've had a considerable go at nintendo the past while. But I have to agree, I am an idiot for taking the bait.