Final Fantasy 8 Remaster

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:19 am

Seed Rank A trophy doesn't come up whenI reach SeeD Rank A. First I thought maybe I had to wait to be paid at that rank. I've been paid at least twice at that rank. No trophy.

Well I got the trophy after getting demoted and then getting back up to rank A but I think there must be a bug related to thus trophy. Either it was because I got this rank at the same time as being paid the first time (which gives another trophy) or possibly related to the way I ranked up the first time (ostensibly by battling up from rabk 29). Or the bug just prevents you from getting it the first time yoy reach rank A period. I don't know what, but thre's some bug.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:49 am

Sounds like a bugged trophy to me.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:44 pm

Did you get to A through spamming the tests? Maybe it has to go to A through other means.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:50 pm

Probably not that. I got to 29 by spamming tests, but I ranked up to A from there by fighting battles. The time I earned the trophy I got up to A by taking a test, so seems like the tests work fine. It's possible though it wasn't the way I got up to rank A, but the fact that I got to it the same time I got my first payment. Maybe the game doesn't like you earning two trophies at once, but it's also possible that if you battle a rank up it doesn't work for the trophy. I'll note that I also got the rank up for the train mission, but I was still rank A at the time, so it didn't do anything and didn't earn me the trophy. Probably couldn't have gotten the trophy without dropping a rank and getting back up to A at that point (to be fair I didn't try taking a test when I was already at rank A, maybe that also would have worked).

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:04 pm

I played a bit more
Is it me or is it kinda worse than the original

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:21 pm

In what way? Because to me it's fine.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:28 pm

Thé lack of analog control is annoying for example

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:15 pm

My analogs work?

Pretty sure the control is as stiff as it's always been.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:37 pm

It was definitely analog on the ps1.
This has 8 directions. Not analog.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:29 pm

How could it have been analog on the PS1? The controllers didn't even have analog sticks. I agree with Asaroth. I think it's the same. There were always some annoying issues with getting to go exactly where you wanted, especially when trying to face certain areas to inspect them.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:44 pm

I tried looking into it but can find no proof one way or the other.

It does seem to be leaning in Ward's favor.

I found someone saying everyone else was being an idiot and it was 8 way in original release. So short of sticking it in myself I dont know what to think.

As for analog I know some ps1 had it because of games like Threads of Fate.

Also Golbez the ps1 launched without analog but eventually released the dualshocks and ps2 just came standard

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:11 pm

The ps1 not having analog is the fakest news

It had optional 360 degree directional input and this game supported it

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:01 am

Lord Golbez wrote:How could it have been analog on the PS1? The controllers didn't even have analog sticks.

The Dual Shock controller had been released and become standard on the PS1 before the release of FFVIII.

Asaroth Larot wrote:I tried looking into it but can find no proof one way or the other.

I still have the original. It absolutely has analog support. So did FFIX which was also broken for the re-release.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:36 am

Well, that's dumb. Why would they take away something like that when it's something most games have now anyway?

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:30 am

I remember using analogue to make my party run in a figure of 8 on the steps of Ultamecia’s Castle.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:33 pm

Lord Golbez wrote:Well, that's dumb. Why would they take away something like that when it's something most games have now anyway?

Because this "remaster" is just another recycle of the 20 year old PC port which didn't have analog support because it was made for keyboards. All they did was swap some of the 3D models and add the turbo options.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:05 pm

Guess the original PlayStation version is what they lost.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:35 pm

I got this and there's graphical glitches and shit that wasn't there in my original PC version on steam. It's weird.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:47 pm

I made a video of gameplay and it has lots of issues.

https://youtu.be/6mjIXKClb-k

Notice the npcs at 6:41. Some are blurry, others aren't.

At 14:51 there's AWFUL slowdown. That screen has always had frame rate issues but it was NEVER THAT BAD. It continues when they get to Ifrit.

At like 27:20 Cid is talking and is clear and has a nice model. After that he's a pixelated mess. What the fuck. Also it got choppy there for some reason?

Considering FFVIII is, or at one point time (haven't played it since 2009) was my favorite FF, this is all kind of disappointing.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:48 pm

At least they managed not to have the music restart bug that usually plagues these ports.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:53 pm

HKK wrote:
At like 27:20 Cid is talking and is clear and has a nice model. After that he's a pixelated mess. What the fuck.

He switches to being painted on the background. Lots of NPCs are actually just painted on instead of there...so everytime that's the case the NPCs wont get new models

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:18 pm

Damien wrote:At least they managed not to have the music restart bug that usually plagues these ports.

Yeah that's annoying AF. you get to only hear the first 25s of songs only

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:54 pm

What I want to know is if the glitch right after blob Cid there still works. I think that’s the part anyway. When they hop in the car, if you hold left or right on the controller, then in the next scene the car is driving sideways.

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:57 am

Asaroth Larot wrote:
HKK wrote:
At like 27:20 Cid is talking and is clear and has a nice model. After that he's a pixelated mess. What the fuck.
He switches to being painted on the background. Lots of NPCs are actually just painted on instead of there...so everytime that's the case the NPCs wont get new models

Well it’s new to me. It didn’t happen in the previous steam version and considering this is a “remaster” I expected better. I feel ripped off.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:42 am

Im enjoying it...but Id enjoy it more if the map got the same treatment as the characters.

The fact that it doesnt just makes no fucking sense.

At the end of this video you can see that yes Cid does revert to painted on even back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuLXqXF ... 99&index=3

and here is one that says it's Steam 2013. Same deal. Painted on Cid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVwVh5jzQWw

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:35 pm

You’re right. It’s just harder to notice because it’s lower res. Which makes it even more inexcusable here.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:21 pm

Don't you mean Bizarro excusable?

Sorry, I meant don't you mean less excusable?

HKK · Post by **HKK** » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 pm

Sorry. Inexcusable.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:06 am

Sounds like a lame way of saying Bizarro excusable.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:31 pm

I've just seen somebody on the Final Fantasy Facebook page complaining that the game was too easy and they beat it in 5 hours. Imagine playing it at 3x speed with invincibility and all the other cheats turned on and then complaining on social media that it was too short and easy

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:01 pm

ROFL. Game is pretty darn easy though if you exploit the junction system and card mods and such, even without cheats. No way you could beat it in five hours though. Even with the cheats that sounds a bit suspect.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:14 pm

Nah I buy it. World record is 7 hours without cheats

gintanto · Post by **gintanto** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:24 pm

Damien wrote:You can play in bed and on the toilet with Switch. You get the additional objectives...

Wait, how does the switch know whether you’re on the toilet?

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:30 pm

gintanto wrote:
Damien wrote:You can play in bed and on the toilet with Switch. You get the additional objectives...
Wait, how does the switch know whether you’re on the toilet?

I think it has a smell detector that automatically turns it off so you can't play it on your toilet

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:01 pm

Asaroth Larot wrote:Nah I buy it. World record is 7 hours without cheats

How? There are so many places the game slows you down with ridiculous slow character movements in getting on off ladders and shit, not to mention the sprinkling of FMVs throughout. They must find some way to skip the FMVs or something I bet. 7 is pretty easy to buy with the 3x speed but 7 at normal speed seems difficult to imagine. Like I'm not imagining any grinding or unnecessary battles. Literally just walking through the game and doing everything scripted seems like it would take longer.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 12:32 am

Lord Golbez wrote:
Asaroth Larot wrote:Nah I buy it. World record is 7 hours without cheats
How? There are so many places the game slows you down with ridiculous slow character movements in getting on off ladders and shit, not to mention the sprinkling of FMVs throughout. They must find some way to skip the FMVs or something I bet. 7 is pretty easy to buy with the 3x speed but 7 at normal speed seems difficult to imagine. Like I'm not imagining any grinding or unnecessary battles. Literally just walking through the game and doing everything scripted seems like it would take longer.

See for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vucZvS__zo

I skipped around a bit and it's not that far fetched. He just skips all the dialogue, makes a b line straight for everything, breaks the junction system, then does little time savers here and there like always running during boss battles to skip some animations.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:14 am

I didn't realize that running to skip animations was something you could do.

It's in French though. Totally suspect.

Notably, doesn't count the ending. I guess beating the final boss is the agreed upon cut off point, but the ending would tack on a good bit of time there.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 7:10 am

gintanto wrote:
Damien wrote:You can play in bed and on the toilet with Switch. You get the additional objectives...
Wait, how does the switch know whether you’re on the toilet?

You got my sentence off there. The additional objectives is referring to the trophies in the PS4 version.

gintanto · Post by **gintanto** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 8:34 am

Damien wrote:
gintanto wrote:
Damien wrote:You can play in bed and on the toilet with Switch. You get the additional objectives...
Wait, how does the switch know whether you’re on the toilet?
You got my sentence off there. The additional objectives is referring to the trophies in the PS4 version.

My misreading of your post was so hilarious I wanted to share it with everyone else. If I were a photoshop expert I would have replied with a doctored achievement screen and it would have been awesome.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:43 am

Achievement Unlocked: Raid on Tollet

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:26 pm

This is why we should let corporations track all of our most minute movements and bodily functions. So that we can have better video game achievements.

WaWard · Post by **WaWard** » Sat Sep 21, 2019 9:29 pm

Lord Golbez wrote:I didn't realize that running to skip animations was something you could do.

It's in French though. Totally suspect.

Notably, doesn't count the ending. I guess beating the final boss is the agreed upon cut off point, but the ending would tack on a good bit of time there.

they eat fucking pretzels instead of hotdogs in French

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:43 am

...Wait. Do you mean in the game? Like the french version has pretzel jokes?

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:32 am

If it was a Quebec translation they’d definitely still be hot dogs.

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:47 pm

We need an FF8 prequel to explain that mark on Edea's face.

Poisonous helmet? Car accident?

Fei Ayanami · Post by **Fei Ayanami** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:52 pm

Just a victim of tattoo trends in her youth.

Lord Golbez · Post by **Lord Golbez** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Does she even have those marks when the helmets off at the end?

I always wondered what the deal with that weird visor is when Rinoa comes to see her. Is that some kind of manifestation of Junction Machine Ellone or just some snazzy helmet feature?

Asaroth Larot · Post by **Asaroth Larot** » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:30 pm

Camcorder footage isnt clear enough to really tell. Her left side is obscured.

Cid · Post by **Cid** » Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:57 am

She's just concentrating really hard.

Damien · Post by **Damien** » Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:02 am

Picked up FFVIII Remaster after finishing Link's Awakening and it sure looked shitty at first. Quickly got used to the dodgy backgrounds (though not the janky controls). Played the first couple of hours (that I've played before probably over 10 times) sped up, but have gradually started playing it at normal speed. At the point just after the train heist now. I think that's as far as I got the last time I played the game (on PS3/PSP).
Finally seeing past the disjointed graphics and remembering why I used to consider this as one of my favourite games. Drawing and the Junction system just don't annoy me once I'm used to it. I played this game though in Japanese, so it can't be that complicated.