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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:26 am    Post subject:  So is there a facebook group or anything? Reply with quote Back to top

Or...? How do we connect on FB?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:39 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Why? FB is inferior to forums in every way. Search your heart, yo know it to be true.
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You mean like using real names and having real photos?! What is this? 2017?!?!?!

I fell old when I talk to young staff members at work, who are on all the social apps exposing themselves to the internet archives and documenting their stupid action for eternity. Not like us! We at least picked 1337 usernames!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:36 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

There used to be an SG Facebook group. The RDM thinks membership was purged at some point.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:42 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Next time you're on Facebook, do yourself a favour and click the "create ads" option. It's pretty interesting.
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Here's my problem with FB.

I want to talk to you guys, not your friends I don't know.

Also, FB is terrible.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

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There used to be an SG Facebook group. The RDM thinks membership was purged at some point.


There was one a few years back but after an initial mediocre buzz, people started leaving and now it has something like 2 or 3 members and isn't used. As long as the forums are still around, I don't think a Facebook page would have much of a purpose. If anybody would like to try to manage one, please by all means try.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:48 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

I'm riding this no-Facebook-account thing out until Facebook actually stops being used.

Then I'll get one ironically!

Nah.
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I just noticed that in your profile that you're in Montreal now.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

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I'm riding this no-Facebook-account thing out until Facebook actually stops being used.

Then I'll get one ironically!

Nah.


That's OK, I can just stalk you on twitter~
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:23 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Doom wrote:
Here's my problem with FB.

I want to talk to you guys, not your friends I don't know.

Also, FB is terrible.


I only have facebook nowdays to keep up with relatives and pictures of my nephew and niece.

I also used to have facebook to be aware of any events or parties, but now that I don't even party, is one less thing to use it for.

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Doom wrote:
I just noticed that in your profile that you're in Montreal now.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:06 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

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I'm riding this no-Facebook-account thing out until Facebook actually stops being used.

Then I'll get one ironically!

Nah.


You could always join that hipster-typeface-invite-only-facebook-wannabe thing that flopped before it got started a few years ago!

I don't remember the name of it, obviously.

Edit: It's called Ello (and yes, I googled "hipster invite only facebook")
https://www.bustle.com/articles/41524-ello-looks-like-a-hipster-tumblr-and-acts-like-an-ad-free-facebook
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I'm riding this no-Facebook-account thing out until Facebook actually stops being used.

Then I'll get one ironically!

Nah.


i concur.

can you imagine the embarrassment of someone uploading a video where you press down your half naked friend and vomit a seemingly impossible amount of steaming hot brownish vomit onto them?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Got YouTube for that!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:21 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

teehee
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Naked means less laundry!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:07 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

FWIW, here's the old SG Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/Square-Gamer-118637604855189/
10 members. Last post 2015, last post with a comment 2012...
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Doesn't show up. Get an error.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Same here. I think someone must have made it private and removed most of us.
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Oh Facebook "unpublished" it due to inactivity. I have made it live again.
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2 members!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Damien, that's a page, not a group. I think you'd find a little more success if you made a group. That way we can add people who don't post on SG anymore and keep in touch as well.
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Don't you have a Squarepedia group? I remember someone posting a link to that.
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Damien, that's a page, not a group. I think you'd find a little more success if you made a group. That way we can add people who don't post on SG anymore and keep in touch as well.


Go for it and make one! There's an "Squaregamer Members" group that has 2 members (me and Man of TXT). Last post was Doom in 2010. Everybody else abandoned it. Facebook is less popular now than it was then as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 12:46 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

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That way we can add people who don't post on SG anymore and keep in touch as well.

Couldn't we just get them to start posting again? And should we assume they're on Facebook?

If there's a group or page, I think the main goal should be to point out SG is alive again and they should just post here. ruroken
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Seriously. Please don't use FB.
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What do you not like about FB, doom?
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I still really don't get the point of this. What can you do on FB that you can't do on the forum? Seems like it's just duplicating stuff. With a worse interface. And like Doom said, people who aren't SG members getting in on it because they're family and friends of SG members. Like I want some stupid racist grandpa or something posting some idiotic proTrump mantras in response to some joke someone makes. It's just inferior in every way.
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People hardly use SG so why make things worse?
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It's true that an active Facebook group (unlikely) would result in chat being diverted from the actual forum.
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Yeah. So doesn't make sense. It's kind of like saying let's get rid of the forum and move this to facebook. Something the majority of us would not prefer.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Joei wrote:
People hardly use SG so why make things worse?


Steve's negativity makes a fair point here.
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People hardly use SG so why make things worse?


Steve's negativity makes a fair point here.

I'd call that objectivity rather than negativity here, tbh.
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How can you tell though?
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The "people hardly use SG" part is a fact, which is objectively measurable.

How many people have posted so far today?
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500, probably.
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Between 1 and 20,000 I'd say.
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4263556, give or take a few.
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It's certainly over 9000.
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So yeah, "hardly" is totally objective, not a negative perception of reality.
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Well, I use SG very easily.
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I was pretty dismissive of this but actually we need some kind of backup for if/when the forum crashes. We can always rebuild if everyone knows where to get info, but we'll lose people if we don't have somewhere in the interim to keep people in the know.
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Granted, but I don't even have mIRC anymore. I should probably make my failed attempts at reaching the channel soon, so there are people still to troubleshoot, before the forum crashes and I can't reach it.

I can't be the only person who doesn't do IRC though. I'm sure others probably never have. At least I used to get on there.
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Granted, but I don't even have mIRC anymore. I should probably make my failed attempts at reaching the channel soon, so there are people still to troubleshoot, before the forum crashes and I can't reach it.

I can't be the only person who doesn't do IRC though. I'm sure others probably never have. At least I used to get on there.


irccloud makes it pretty easy. you login through the website and their server maintains the active IRC connection. free it'll keep it alive for 2 hours and paid indefinitely. good for mobile situations. leave a computer logged in at home and pop in and out on your phone whenever.
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It's been several years, but my recollection of IRC is you need to know a bunch of info like what port to connect to or whatever, or else you won't have the right IRC channel.

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I'm not in contact with Luke. I think only Damien is. It would probably be sufficient to stay in contact with Damien, but we need a resilient network to avoid hemorrhaging members if the forum crashes. IRC is a good hub, but I think there are probably a lot of people who won't go there.

One of my major concerns is also over members who only show up rarely, like once a year. We could lost all contact info for them if the forum crashes. I don't actually think an FB group necessarily solves that problem though.
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Well there is a Facebook group and page and Twitter and nobody's interested in any of them. There's also IRC.
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Lord Golbez wrote:
One of my major concerns is also over members who only show up rarely, like once a year. We could lost all contact info for them if the forum crashes. I don't actually think an FB group necessarily solves that problem though.


If there is data, there should be a backup. If the data is precious to someone, there should be two :-) preferably one offsite. And then you can always get back in contact with people.

I'd say your biggest worry should be the domain name. As long as you have that, you can post a page telling everyone where the new forum is or when the current forum will be restored. But if you ever lost the domain name and some squatter grabbed it, then you'd have a real risk of losing people.

But, if you take the alternate meeting spot (facebook or IRC or whichever) and put a link to it on the front page, then archive.org will save it for you forever. Assuming anyone thinks to look there.
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