Trip to Frogfagland

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: Trip to Frogfagland

So.

Time for us to DO Paris. By request this thread has moved from ElJay to here...

I've told me housemates about this - not sure if any will be able to come due to time/monies/stuff, but will keep 'em in di loop.

It looks like the 16th & 17th Dec is the best weekend in terms of monies - need to Check!

with Alice if she is ok to come up that weekend.

Checked out flights, and they are about £85 per person (even BMI Cry

), which is the same as Eurostar, booked in advance. So, I suggest we do teh 'Star (less commuting around, since Waterloo is more central for SGWH, and GDN is closer to Paris itself).

Eurostar offer kinda package deals as well... so get a bit of a discount when booking a hotel at the same time. For shits and giggles, I quite fancy staying at a Hotel in the Troc ;p it is about a tenner per person more expensive than a cheaper one, but what the hell!

So, thoughts? Comments? Should I get's it on Monday?

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:34 am Post subject:

Btw the hotel is not literally in the Troc, spoiler

I still think you're kaffir pricks for going when I'm away tbh

But yeah, Eurostar is best, GDN isn't that far from Paris XVI and you can take the 42 to ~~the arcade where they have Supernova~~ central Paris from there.

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:50 am Post subject:

I fugred that, tbh ;p

We are "in the troc" in the same way that Beetle is "in Waterloo", k?

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject:

Well, tbh the main reason why you can't be in the Troc is because the Troc in Paris is an 'Esplanade', not a building

[history fag]... The Real Trocadéro is in Spain tbh[/history fag]

K, so, hm, where to start

(lot's of online discussions happened while I was catching some zzz's, uh?)

Er, actually I liked the december 2/3 idea somewhat better... especially coz it was more soonish, tbh

(for the record, I've already finished one of the books you lent me on the train back home, might run short of them sooner than I thought

)

december 16/17 is semi OK for me.

The good points:
- it's later thus cheaper

- I've got nothing planned so far on that day
- it's my Saint's day, yay me

(as if I actually cared about that kind of shit

)

The bad points:
- it's my Saint's day, :onion (long story short: potential stupid family drama FTW

)
My emo-drama-queen of a dad actually does care about that kind of shit, and will probably start pouting and whining if he can't see me on that day (+ on Xmas, as I definetely don't want to be with them at that particular time of the year either, + on my birthday coz I've already something planned for New Year), and my mum will insist I make an effort so that she doesn't have to suffer through his bad mood, and that it's already bad enough that my sister won't be here and that my brother will say he's too busy (as if I'm not

), and I will be very tempted to tell them to fuck right off and get a fucking life, and not speak to them ever again (for a good month or so)... but will more probably eventually give in out of guilt coz I'm weak and stupid like that ... D:
K, actually, I'm not sure yet how things will turn out (hopefully not like this).

My best option would probably be to fully plan&pack my own busy schedule from now till 2007 and later on right now (ie, before the end of the week), then tell my parents when they're back from their current holidays the exact timeframe (hm, around december 9/10, maybe...) when they can see me if they want to and that there is no other option as all other days are booked, love it or leave it, coz I'm a busy person unlike them semi-retired lazy bums... Sounds like a plan

OK, all that shit is my own fucking business, obviously, just stating it to make things clear: as far as I'm concerned, my schedule is pretty fully open at the moment, but once things will start getting planned, there might be little room for adjustments, as I will have some OMG-improvisation-is-such-a-messy-business are-you-always-so-disorganized can't-you-make-up-your-mind-once-and-for-all you've-got-no-lessons-on-that-day-so-doesn't-that-mean-you're-not-working and-if-your-schedule-is-so-open-and-flexible-how-come-work-and-other-people-always-come-first-instead-of-us-btw emo-psycho-rigid people of my own to deal with

So, yeah, hm, decisions... Discussions first?
Both december 2/3 and december 16/17 are feasible at the moment. 2/3 sounds better to me just coz it's sooner and I'm a simple-minded person with a time horizon not exceeding one month, but tbh, if you can afford it (time&money wise), I'm up for both week-ends

... actually, I'm starting to think of a tentative plan involving some meeting in Paris from december 16 to december 17 (or even later the following week, since after all you've got some Xmas holidays after that, uh? Shock

And Paris is definetly worth staying there for longer than just a week-end)... directly followed by a trip to London?

(not sure for how long. If I listened to me, I'd be up for staying till Xmas or something, but now that sounds just a bit unreasonable, when taking into account trivial matters such as work and budget, + whether you guys actually want me to go over there and ruin the weather again

- not mentioning being a tramp sleeping on someone's sofa/bedroom floor/whatever and not paying a rent

)
Sooo... still quite fuzzy, uh? I like the "dec 2/3 or 16/17? both, and some more, plz!

" option, but it's easier for me to say that, of course, as I've got less time & budget constraints as far as Paris is concerned. You've got my take on things, but the choice isn't really up to me now.
*end of communication, waiting for some feedback*
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject:

Alice, just a few things:

- Don't give in to emotional blackmail.

- Chris will tell you himself but I know you're definitely welcome to spend Christmas at SGWH if you want.

- I think you should plan some meeting with Lucie in Paris so imo you should go both week-ends anyway. That and you've got awesome relatives there.

- What about going to Cannes sometime around Christmas/New Year's Eve? The fact that mum isn't talking to her mum anymore shouldn't stop you from visiting her. I kinda regret not going myself tbh and I'm definitely going to do my best to give her lots of news while I'm in HK/Shanghai.

Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject:

I agree with all that:
- actually I'm pretty determined to not give in to emo blackmail and have my own fun, priorities are quite well sorted out in my own mind, don't worry (that drama trailer of mine was more of motivational trick, like a way for me to remember what I didn't want seeing happening

I'll do my best to anticipate getting stuck in such a situation, and to have thing go both my way and as smoothly as possible, hence the "Here is when you can come and see me. That is all. Deal with it" plan)
- I know that too but I prefer people telling me themselves coz I like to feel wanted, you know?

(btw, aren't you a bit jealous I'm being a better French Girl than you so far, having them dirty kuffars come to visit Paris and all? Mr. Green

)
- Yeah, I was thinking about meeting Lucie in Paris at some point. Should discuss that with local friends too. And all the same I don't think Lucie and co would mind meeting some of my awesome relatives, and/or favorite brit fags

The more the merrier

- I was thinking about visiting my granny as well (mum and her don't talk anymore again? Didn't know about that latest plot twist in the family drama, must have missed an ep or two O_o), just need to think exactly when (like I said, already got a plan for New Year, but Xmas is still mostly unplanned... will travel around a lot if I'm to see everyone I want to. Perfectly feasible, but tight schedule again, and will require some serious early planning if I want reasonably priced tickets.)

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I'm gonna change my name. I keep thinking you're talking about me.
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

Do you want to make it easy and go to France?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject:

Yuka, you need to come to France and visit a place called Yuka.
Anyway. France get? Mr. Green

Andy Christmas?? Shock

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

I've been to frogfragland south, is pretty nice.
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:59 am Post subject:

Alice (Entr0pi3, not Yuka, though she is of course invited ;p),

Ok... so have thought about dates etc. From your post above, I'm assuming that 2nd/3rd is actually bettAer for you (though I am confused... it seems ambiguous), so in absence of other information going to book that weekend (so let me know if this is not the case). Sadly, noes Troc get's Shock

though it'll be alright, I'm sure. Do you want us to get a 3-bed room, btw, or will you have other accomodation?

Personally, I'd actually be up for coming to Paris both weekends ;p However, funds are limited for people, generally, so I guess this is not really an option... so Paris re-get's early 2G7? Shock

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:14 am Post subject:

Paris or other France-ness

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject:

English people always get shafted on prices boo

Any idea on possible Xmasfun yet? Shock

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject:

Actually my guess is that there are more Londoners going to Paris on week-ends, than Parisians going to London, which means the cheap tickets for brits get sold out sooner.

Christmas plans still very fuzzy

Got a budget problem to solve (still waiting for the €2000+ the university owes me), + need more info from various people

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject:

Good luck with that

Hope you get it sorted and manage to make it here for Doctor Who & The Quen (now you know how to do a tie

).

Can't believe this is the first time I've ever gone to France

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject:

You have a chunnel! No excuse!

Actually, I haven't even been to Canada, so I can't criticize.
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject:

It costs peas, and once you get there, it's full of French people

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject:

Right. Sorry I've been out of contact for a while.

We can do 2nd/3rd, and it will be £233 total for Eurostar (so just under £117 each, prices have gone up since I first checked, as expected). This ok with you Chris? Just let me know if it is, and I'll get's it for us both, otherwise if it is too expensive it will invariably be cheaper to wait till the 16th (but only £15 each, tbh)

Alice: Yes, it would be delightful if you can book accomodation, as you know Paris 556x better than either of us; how would you like me to get peas across to you, though? Shock

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

Book gets!
Btw, when we going to book Christmas dinner? Shock

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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:02 am Post subject:

Cool, will book tixxx tomorrow lunchtime.

Re: Christmas dinner, where do you reckon we should go? If we book a week in advance, anywhere will be ok I reckon (Penderel's Oak?)

Also, not sure who is coming, exactly - any chance that you could post an LJ entry to find out (as you have more people on your friend's list than me ;p) - once we work out then answer to those two questions I can book it \o/
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:18 am Post subject:

I'll post entry today.
I know Beetle's up for it, but I can't remember for the life of me who else.
Penderels may be okay.
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Yukas?

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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:36 pm Post subject:

Rachel keeps telling me I need to get a picture of it, as she's rubbish and doesn't carry any form of camera with her.
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:21 am Post subject:

Ah, I see!

Needs more Yuka at Yukas, tbh Shock

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject:

I think she's seen more than one.
Not too bothered really tbh. I'm sure after going to Paris once, I'll just go again and again (though maybe not to the extent of you and Londres

).

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject:

K, looks like I should book for 5 people? Reasonably priced hotel all seem to be located near the Gare du Nord, which is a bit far from typical tourist places (the most famous ones are all located all the way along the Seine), but not too much, since you can get from there to the Tour Eiffel in something like 30 minutes by tube or bus, so it's not such a big problem (Central Paris is not that big, and the public transport network is quite good)
Also, near the Gare du Nord lies a somewhat famous touristic area: Montmartre (think Amélie - except not, real life is not like the movie, spoilAer... but the area is still nice - esp the cemetery

) and the Opera district (famous for stuff like the Moulin Rouge, and Place Pigalle and its many sex shops, etc.). A lively place for sure, esp. at night, and supposedly not too far from one of Paris arcades.

So... I happen to have found a deal for 2 hotel rooms, 5 persons, grand total of €182.94, limited offer, continental breakfast included... Should I book right now?
Here is the hotel : http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187147-d264820-Reviews-Migny_Hotel_Opera_Montmartre-Paris_Ile_de_France.html

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject:

Get's! Sounds wonderful.

Be eternally grateful if you could book it - it's a deal, it's a steal, it's sale of the f'kin century!

Once again, thanks for this Alice <3
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject:

Done!

Don't thank me until we actually get to see the rooms, though

Also, I don't deserve much credit for this, as I must say the hotel search engine service provided by Expedia is pretty damn fucking efficient. Though the maps suck a bit. But just need to cross-reference the info with Mappy + the RATP site for tube info, and voilà!
You guys (and myself) will probably need to get unlimited-travel tickets on the central Paris transport network (bus, tube, etc., around €14 per person for 2 days), but that can wait till you arrive in Paris.
... Oh, I guess you could also thank my university for being so slow when it comes to paying back my travel expenses, forcing me to develop special cheap travel survival skills

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:

Thank you, anyway!

It doesn't matter what the hotel is really like, since it is only for one night, and is really to avoid a bunch of drunken Brits (+"tour guide") falling foul of the gendarmerie whilst wandering the streets ;p

Chris or I will post some edited highlights of reviews of the place that we've read, too

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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject:

Hmm...I didnt read this based on the title. But if you're calling me gay...I dont know...everyday its different. I know hes not but who gives a shit he'll never see it. I could not care less what you think. Yeah I liked her no it had nothing to do with him. Bottom line is i'm kind of sensitive when it comes to that and I'd freakin apresheate it if you got off my penis about it.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:51 am Post subject:

The hotel sounds fucking great and I can't wait love

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:59 am Post subject:

Personally, I prefer the definition of a bundle of tied-up sticks and twigs, often used for fuel.

Alternatively, it can refer to a (IMO) disgusting pork-based product, produced in the UK by Mr. Brain.

But meaning 42 from Cooper-Hinkley's unabridged dictionary is the one I prefer the best:

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject:

*HAS NO SENSE OF SELF DIGNITY* Mr. Green

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:

You are the one who told me to just let loose and have fun...it is just the internet. And in real life I have the privilege of not giving a crap what people think...took me while but hey I'm getting there
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

you shouldn't smoke btw
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm Post subject:

Don't bother telling her that, Entropie smokes fike a fucking chimney

60 a day

It's good for your health anyway

So what strip clubs are we going to and what hookers are we looking for?

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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject:

I've never been and to be honest the idea of it kind of scares me...
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject:

I think Damien's question there wa meant for me, tbh... Shock

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