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I think I still prefer Zelda on the SNES.
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I think ultimately we are comparing Apple and oranges.

They might be the same series but they’re also fundamentaly different. If it were any other company they would be two different series probably.

I like them both a lot. They were both revolutionary in their own time. But newer is better so
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You could probably say that for any transition from 2D to 3D for a series. It certainly holds well for Mario games, where the 3D games tend to focus more on collectibles, while those were barely a thing in the 2D games and it was more just about getting through the levels. One exception is probably like Mario 3D land, where it's a 3D game that largely plays like a 2D Mario game.

What else? Metroid. 2D series is used to coin the term "Metroidvania." 3D series are basically FPS. That's a way more stark difference than the difference between 2D and 3D Zelda.
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Yeah the format of a 3D Zelda game lies a lot closer to that of a 2D one than with Mario.
My point anyway is that BotW isn't my favourite Zelda game so can't be my favourite game of all time.
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I just can’t decide if LTTP/LA are my favourite Zelda or BOTW is. They’re both great for different reasons. I guess what I’m trying to say is that Zelda is a better series than Persona.
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Zelda isn't even close to as good a series as Persona. I would take any of Persona 3, 4 or 5 over all Zelda games. Heck, I'd take Brave Fencer Musashi over most Zelda games. It's a very overrated above average, but not exceptional series.
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Bottomline: Zelda is a B+ series that reviewers all put on A+ goggles for when they play.
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Zelda isn't even close to as good a series as Persona. I would take any of Persona 3, 4 or 5 over all Zelda games. Heck, I'd take Brave Fencer Musashi over most Zelda games. It's a very overrated above average, but not exceptional series.


A series of bold statements. When was the last time you even played Brave Fencer?
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Maybe like 8 - 10 years ago.
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It's probably borderline unbearable/unplayable right now. I preferred Threads of Fate. Neither got released here. We got the PS2 one though
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Can we just accept already that Sonic Spinball is the greatest game of all time.
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Dude. Brave Fencer Musashi holds up way better than Ocarina. Also Threads of Fate is far more unplayable. I started playing that and stopped early on when I got to some barrier that I didn't have enough max mp to get through. It was like I was supposed to level grind my mp just to proceed with the game. Truly shitty design.
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I guess, like Breath of the Wild, it would have benefited from a few dozen cut scenes of school children eating burgers.
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WTF does that have to do with my legitimate complaint that they put a remplenishing barrier that you can dissolve proportional to your mp early in the game? I think they basically made the game unbeatable with one character without an inane level of grinding.
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Doesn't Persona also involve a lot of grinding? Both in battle and outside, raising traits and social links etc?
I remember next to nothing about Threads of Fate. i think i finished it pretty quickly
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Notbat the level I'm talking about and not so early in the game. It's conplete Apples and Oranges. What I'm talking about was more like you're stuck between a few rooms because you don't have enough mp and you just have to grind on the same enemy over and over. I don't even know if it would work really because I just tried it for a bit. It was taking forever and I lost all interest in the game.

I'm guessing you didn't choose the magic user. My suspicion isnthe game was optimized for one of the characters and they didn't bother to properly test it for both characters.
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Can we just accept to turn this thread into a BMX XXX thread?
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BMX Bandit.
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BMX: Breath of the Wild
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I rented BMX XXX to laugh at it. That and Turok Evolution.
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5 posts before this thread becomes a Bubsy 3D thread!
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You want Bubsy 3D?
https://youtu.be/phyqC58v8ng
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Yes but not for another three posts
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