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If you canít give me a good reason for why I shouldnít be band, you should band yourself Check!
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Derek wrote:
Petty forum wars towards a small growing community will do nothing substantial. Those intending to abuse FFE services will be easily removed. It's more a waste of time for you than it is for me.


Someone underestimates my penchant/enjoyment for wasting my free time. ruroken
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Wasting time is what we're all here for!
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The only way these forum wars have ever helped to get more people posting here is that CE posts more often when we have them.
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Very true
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:00 am† †Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Band. And I wasn't even 13. :sadtea I'm IP band from even viewing the forums. That's pretty eXtreme.
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The up side to being band is that we not longer have to endure the bad site that has each thread in a separate forum. Surprised at how ban-happy they are, considering there aren't any other posters. They're clearly content with being dead. Guess we touched on a nerve by pointing out that they're claiming to be us
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Now Dragon McKnight has the place to himself, with Derek moderating.
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I wonder if anybody who registered there remembers our FF Extreme as opposed to this one?
Wonder if we're able to get a full history on what happened. Presumably it was a member of our forum who first took the name and started it, then the two sites got confused over time?
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When were we FF Extreme anyway? I'm shaky on this history. I thought this was FF8 something before SG.
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It was when we were FF8.org. It was before I had my own fucking PC. I'll get Shaun in to try to remember it.
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Oh. The URL was FF8.org, but the site was called FF Extreme? Kind of like how FFO is calling itself FFS now?
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Yeah. I'm not sure though (spread myself thin over forums back then), but I've asked Mr. Grey Fox to chime in.
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I just remember ff8.org aka



Oh. It looks like we've all been banned. What a humorless coward.
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I'm sure he's going to enjoy moderating one person who just posts into the void.
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Maybe there'll be another member at some point. Perhaps we should introduce Paulo to FFE
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Maybe there'll be another member at some point. Perhaps we should introduce Paulo to FFE


Unfortunately, we can't contact him because we destroyed their forums.
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Perhaps we can contact Stefan and get him to put a callout to Paulo on the main page. Not much of a chance of that though, considering the forum being destroyed wasn't even reported there
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Heeey I remember making that pic with the orange glory logo haha.

Ok hereís the basic history as I remember it.

Final Fantasy VIII - The Legacy Continues
Merged with FF8.org to become FF8 Omega
I had a falling out with Jeffropuff, my partner on that site, and the site was shut down.
The ff8.org domain was owned by Negativzero networks and I struck a deal with the guy to take over the site and I relaunched it as FF Extreme.
Sometime later the negativzero guy was like ďhey our site is doing really good, you need anything, like a new domain name?Ē And I was like ďyeah, squaregamer.comĒ and then I made Square Gamer. Square Gamer got huge as fuck and I sold it to eFront Media, who also bought Penny Arcade and a few other sites that were big at the time. They contracted me to continue running the site. This was a pretty frustrating relationship where they wanted ads all over the site making it ugly as fuck and I kept refusing or lying to them saying I did it. Around this time I met up with Gabe and Tycho from Penny Arcade and they hated eFront too and wanted out of the deal. I was getting paid well so I didnít care or take it very seriously, I was like 17 or 18. Around this time the CEO of eFrontís ICQ logs leaked where he talked shit about the site operators who were uncooperative, and joked about raping and spitting on some girl who was refusing to run their stupid ad bars, and lots of other great stuff I canít remember. They were featured on fuckedcompany.com and all hell broke loose. At the same time the dot com crash was happening and eFront went broke and stopped paying site operators. After months of no checks I signed an agreement waiving everything they owed me for ownership of the site and domain back. I was broke and in debt from living off credit cards for months and had to get a shitty real job and didnít really have time to run the site, and that was kind of the end of the main page with news and stuff. Then sometime later we made Sektor Seven, which was a really cool idea for a community but maybe ahead of its time. I donít really remember what happened after that but Damien took over at some point and weíre still here.

Damn that got long. Iím going back to sleep.
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One day I should write a book.
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Ok hereís a post I dig up on the way back machine for ffextreme

The Extreme Final Fantasy Source

Update by Grey_Fox - February 2, 1999 @ 11:00 pm (PT)
Read what we are all about and what we have to offer you. This site is intended to be an upgrade to the "Final Fantasy VIII Omega" site which was previously at this location.

So Feb 2 1999 we relaunched as FF Extreme
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This is a triple post that I approve of Check!
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So when Derek said FF Extreme existed since 1999 he was referring to this site? Or did someone swoop in and take the name as soon as this site became Square Gamer? Or you never had ffextreme as a url so they could have even existed at the same time?
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The whois domain registry log says it's been registered since 2002, sop they waited until SG had succeeded it to grab it.
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Fei should go to FFE and find out what he's saying about us. All lies, I bet.
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Damien wrote:
This is a triple post that I approve of Check!


Crooked Damien boo
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So I checked, and it turns out he band us for not being 13! Weirdo!
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Huh? Anyway, had a bit of a chat with Shaun. Really does appear that this site took the name of our old one and the likeness of FFO and just rolled with being a continuation of us. Even though SG was Shaunís actual continuation of FFE and also around in 2002.
Baffles me that itís brand new and no easier to navigate than this forum though (which is now 13 years old).
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So I checked, and it turns out he band us for not being 13! Weirdo!


.... really?

This is an outrage! Both of those that can see my profile here know it says age 13!

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Did I get band for not being 63?
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No we all got band for no being 13. He says we were all pretending to be 13.
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But only I did this
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He really doesn't like 30-somethings. Super prejudiced.
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He really doesn't like 30-somethings. Super prejudiced.


Only 20-somethings are real people
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But Iím not going to be in my 20s for two years! Ageist!!
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No we all got band for no being 13. He says we were all pretending to be 13.


Is this true or fake news?
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Damien wrote:
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No we all got band for no being 13. He says we were all pretending to be 13.


Is this true or fake news?


Kneepads is a well known fake news source. Canít be too careful.
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No we all got band for no being 13. He says we were all pretending to be 13.


Is this true or fake news?


It's paraphrasing. He definitely at least implied that more than one, if not all of us, were pretending to be 13.
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No we all got band for no being 13. He says we were all pretending to be 13.


Is this true or fake news?


It's paraphrasing. He definitely at least implied that more than one, if not all of us, were pretending to be 13.


Where did he do that? I didnít even get a band message boo
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No, I snuck back on the site to see what awful things he was saying about us.
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Itís very very easy to get back on the site, even though multiple IPs are now banned.
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I just used my phone when I was away from my house.
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I was away in London during the main part of the "Flame War", so I think my phone network IP is blocked. Really though, this Flame War was very little fun. There weren't any forum members to bounce off.
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Yeah. It was pretty boring. Which is all the more reason that be looks ridiculous for banning us for practically nothing.
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I love how their Final Fantasy XIV ďmegathreadĒ contains two replies
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First person to make a second page wins!
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Banned for pretending to be thirteen is the best part of the flame war, to be honest.
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Which site was it where a member made a thread reviewing all our usernames? That was some good Flame War retaliation.
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Probably FFWA, maybe?
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That was probably FFWA. It might have been Shareandcarestory who did that.

At FFO, the extent of the "retaliation" was pretty much reido posting gifs at us.
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