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It seems like everybody planned their activities around Damien's wedding?

Not really, my own camping trip was last weekend. This weekend I was just picnicking and flying but it's not something that special.
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Flying sounds pretty special. Most people can't fly.

The number of posts in this thread is getting pretty close to Damien's postcount. Within fewer than 500 posts now. Anyone want to take a guess at what page the thread will overtake Damien's postcount? Or if you want a more specific guess, what Damien's postcount will be at the time it gets overtaken?
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Page 378.

Also, happy page 353! Cheerleader


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Tag sale?!
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Page 378.

Also, happy page 353! Cheerleader


That long, huh? I was thinking like 365.
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Yep. And water fountains in Wisconsin are called "bubblers".

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Page 378.

Also, happy page 353! Cheerleader


That long, huh? I was thinking like 365.


Well, we've got a post count gap of about 600, and he probably accounts for about 1/4 of the total posts here...so...oh, wait, yeah, it'll probably be closer to your's unless we bring back MOTW and he decides to take a hiatus.
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Well, there's also the consideration that he posts in other threads besides this one, but I considered the effect of that to be fairly minor and probably offset by other considerations like that he probably won't be posting much for awhile.
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Stoop Sale

Which is like a yard sale, except that it's in Brooklyn.
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There is obviously a French name for garage/yard/tag/stoop sales here, but I don't recall what it is.
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Now that I think about it, it might just be "vente de garage", literally "garage sale".
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There is obviously a French name for garage/yard/tag/stoop sales here, but I don't recall what it is.

Marché aux puces/fleas market? Vide grenier ?
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Now that I think about it, it might just be "vente de garage", literally "garage sale".

Apparently so:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vide-grenier_à_domicile

It's just a Québec thing though, we don't call them like that in France.
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I generally heard it as garage sale even when the people having the sale didn't have a garage. NJ seems to be split down the middle on that though.
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We interchange garage sale and yard sale, mostly depending on whether a garage is actually featured. Churches have rummage sales and flea markets because they're more official.
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Quebecisme.


Churches have bazaarsats.
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Québec will sometimes use a literal French translation of an English word or phrase, where France would say something else entirely. This is perhaps one of those anglicisms. Another one is saying "bienvenue" for "you're welcome", which I can only imagine sounds dreadfully wrong to visitors from France.
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Québec will sometimes use a literal French translation of an English word or phrase, where France would say something else entirely. This is perhaps one of those anglicisms. Another one is saying "bienvenue" for "you're welcome", which I can only imagine sounds dreadfully wrong to visitors from France.

Yup, this is definitely a literal English translation here.
In France we say vide-grenier (emptying-attic), although not everyone even has an attic these days. Also, the concept is different as usually we do it more like a flea market kind of thing, it's not something people do directly outside their home.

Silly question but when you do a yard sale in the US, do you have to file any kind of paperwork to have the right to do it? Do you have to pay taxes on the stuff sold? I assume this extra cash counts as some kind of revenues and the IRS wants its share of the profit?
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Here is an amusing cross-cultural error. Though just the fact that they wrote it "tabernacle" shows how little research they did!
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If I'm not mistaken, a garage sale is called a boot sale in England, referring to the "boot", or trunk, of one's vehicle. Again in that case, I suspect the goods are frequently not sold from the trunk.
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Québec will sometimes use a literal French translation of an English word or phrase, where France would say something else entirely. This is perhaps one of those anglicisms. Another one is saying "bienvenue" for "you're welcome", which I can only imagine sounds dreadfully wrong to visitors from France.

Yup, this is definitely a literal English translation here.
In France we say vide-grenier (emptying-attic), although not everyone even has an attic these days. Also, the concept is different as usually we do it more like a flea market kind of thing, it's not something people do directly outside their home.

Silly question but when you do a yard sale in the US, do you have to file any kind of paperwork to have the right to do it? Do you have to pay taxes on the stuff sold? I assume this extra cash counts as some kind of revenues and the IRS wants its share of the profit?


There are lots of things in the US that people "have" to do that they probably typically don't. It's likely that some kind of tax should be applied to earnings on garage sales. However, it's even more likely that the vast majority of people who hold garage sales don't do it. As for whether you have to file paperwork for a yard sale, that probably depends on local laws, but again, it's very likely that people are often in violation without knowledge or repercussions.
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Here is an amusing cross-cultural error. Though just the fact that they wrote it "tabernacle" shows how little research they did!

It's just the only way we ever write "Tabarnak" in France, see dictionary here:
http://larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/tabernacle/76296?q=Tabernacle+#75411

No one in France knows it's a rude word, people just know it as a weird exclamation mark from Québec.
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Québec will sometimes use a literal French translation of an English word or phrase, where France would say something else entirely. This is perhaps one of those anglicisms. Another one is saying "bienvenue" for "you're welcome", which I can only imagine sounds dreadfully wrong to visitors from France.

Yup, this is definitely a literal English translation here.
In France we say vide-grenier (emptying-attic), although not everyone even has an attic these days. Also, the concept is different as usually we do it more like a flea market kind of thing, it's not something people do directly outside their home.

Silly question but when you do a yard sale in the US, do you have to file any kind of paperwork to have the right to do it? Do you have to pay taxes on the stuff sold? I assume this extra cash counts as some kind of revenues and the IRS wants its share of the profit?


There are lots of things in the US that people "have" to do that they probably typically don't. It's likely that some kind of tax should be applied to earnings on garage sales. However, it's even more likely that the vast majority of people who hold garage sales don't do it. As for whether you have to file paperwork for a yard sale, that probably depends on local laws, but again, it's very likely that people are often in violation without knowledge or repercussions.

I assume it's probably true in many countries, however I also know that ignorance is not a valid excuse as far as the government/court is concerned, so I'd rather know before ever organising a yard sale and being deported for being a dirty immigrant.
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Yeah. The risk is definitely greater for you. In general, I'd say the risk is very small though. How often do you think people check for permits on that kind of stuff? Unless it's very conspicuous, I'd guess almost never.
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The rule is (probably) that you don't need to report if it's under $5,000.
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Here is an amusing cross-cultural error. Though just the fact that they wrote it "tabernacle" shows how little research they did!

It's just the only way we ever write "Tabarnak" in France, see dictionary here:
http://larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/tabernacle/76296?q=Tabernacle+#75411

No one in France knows it's a rude word, people just know it as a weird exclamation mark from Québec.


The actual religious word is still "tabernacle" in Québec too; it's just the exclamation/swear version that is "tabarnak".

Fun fact: the milder variant (kind of like "darn" in place of "damn") is "tabarnouche".
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Yeah, but what I meant is that when we write that swear word in France, it's always written "tabernacle". I've never seen in written "Tabarnak" in a French context, even when it's specifically supposed to be that exclamation from Québec.

http://aleitheia-demarseilleamontreal.over-blog.com/article-les-jurons-quebecois-97320993.html

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The rule is (probably) that you don't need to report if it's under $5,000.

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My own experience tells me that NY state has a lot of silly bureaucracy, even more annoying with rules specific to NYC, so I find it kinda hard to believe they would skip an opportunity to charge people in one way or another.
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The pronunciation is better than I give you?
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No, I believe it's saying the pronunciation is that which I am giving you, referring to the "tabarnak" at the beginning.
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She's saying basically this: French people say "tabernacle" but it's wrong, the correct pronunciation is indeed the one I'm giving you.
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French people are très stupide! Calice de tabarnak!
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INCIDENTALLY, why is everyone acting like Macron is so great? Because he's young-ish and handsome-ish and relatively suave/savvy? He just seems like another ineffectual but charming centrist, like Obama or Trudeau.
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That's exactly what he is, but probably most of those same people are enamored with Obama and Trudeau as well.
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Where I live it's boot sale or jumble sale.
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INCIDENTALLY, why is everyone acting like Macron is so great? Because he's young-ish and handsome-ish and relatively suave/savvy? He just seems like another ineffectual but charming centrist, like Obama or Trudeau.

It's mostly because he's such an expert at trolling Trump, I reckon.
Did you click on the link I posted the other day? The Daft Punk/Bastille Day one?

Apart from that, there are some actual good reasons for Macron to be popular in France, though that would require a very long explanation about the History of French politics.
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He's pretty good at trolling Trump. However, he doesn't really do it without some of Trump's ridiculousness rubbing off on him. The handshake stuff makes both of them look ridiculous.
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True but to be fair it's a game that can't really be won.
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This game can be won, but never for very long.
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I'll definitely be better at winning whilst I'm in CA. Easy, I can just wait until you east coast guys are all asleep. Losers!
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Québec will sometimes use a literal French translation of an English word or phrase, where France would say something else entirely. This is perhaps one of those anglicisms. Another one is saying "bienvenue" for "you're welcome", which I can only imagine sounds dreadfully wrong to visitors from France.

Yup, this is definitely a literal English translation here.
In France we say vide-grenier (emptying-attic), although not everyone even has an attic these days. Also, the concept is different as usually we do it more like a flea market kind of thing, it's not something people do directly outside their home.

Silly question but when you do a yard sale in the US, do you have to file any kind of paperwork to have the right to do it? Do you have to pay taxes on the stuff sold? I assume this extra cash counts as some kind of revenues and the IRS wants its share of the profit?


There are lots of things in the US that people "have" to do that they probably typically don't. It's likely that some kind of tax should be applied to earnings on garage sales. However, it's even more likely that the vast majority of people who hold garage sales don't do it. As for whether you have to file paperwork for a yard sale, that probably depends on local laws, but again, it's very likely that people are often in violation without knowledge or repercussions.

I assume it's probably true in many countries, however I also know that ignorance is not a valid excuse as far as the government/court is concerned, so I'd rather know before ever organising a yard sale and being deported for being a dirty immigrant.


Most garage or yard sales don't really make a lot of money, and it's usually cash-only, difficult to trace, unless you get audited and the IRS asks you where you got the $500 you deposited in July of 2015.

With estate sales, it's a little harder to hide earnings because an auction company is involved to help you get rid of all the stuff you don't want, so you'll probably have enough sense to claim all that as income.

But for 99% of people, they're not going to make enough to warrant getting the government involved. The IRS is already understaffed as it is, and has to focus its auditing efforts in areas that have the biggest return on investment, like Nelly owing $2.4 million in back taxes.

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I'll definitely be better at winning whilst I'm in CA. Easy, I can just wait until you east coast guys are all asleep. Losers!


Joke's on you, I'm the overnight on-call at my hospital this week. I'm gonna be averaging 4 hours of sleep a day when you losers are at your fancy 9-5 jobs.
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I'm about to watch Game of Thrones followed by Twin Peaks. So you've got a chunk of time to win (unless I decide to win between them).
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The IRS is already understaffed as it is, and has to focus its auditing efforts in areas that have the biggest return on investment, like Nelly owing $2.4 million in back taxes.

Good point, I always forget how understaffed they are.
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Who said we're working typical 9-5 jobs? I think this might be the case for Damien but that's it?

Anyway, I give up on winning for tonight, I much prefer getting enough sleep.
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My 9-5 isn't 9-5 for anybody else here.
I'm on a plane btw Mr. Green
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That's more or less what I used to do in my second job in Qatar. Although it was 7-2 I think? Which was even more awesome.

This morning I'm working from 7 to 8(am). I guess I should even have said no and not worked at all since I'm starting a new job soon anyway? I'm too nice sometimes.
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Working for 1 hours is basically not working.

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