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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:41 pm    Post subject:  SG 2G17 version Reply with quote Back to top

Shouldn't we clean things up a bit to make the forum tidier?
Some people were talking about renaming or archiving some obsolete parts of the forum, maybe we should?
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Like archiving the Anime forum?

Bringing back the Metal Gear Solid forum?

Starting a Kid's Forum?
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Yeah, and don't forget renaming Fansub.
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Can I kreep on the kids' forum?
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Yeah I can do this if it doesn't upset Slashley too much
Give me and list and I'll let you know what I can and can't do.
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Let's wait for a week or two and see how many people are still posting.
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There have been more than 5 regular posters recently though.
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Well that's about to go down!
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Why, are you planning to stop posting?
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I think he's just rationally pessimistic about how long we can maintain participation from more than 5.
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Reason is out of fashion.
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Well, I don't see why any of us would stop posting anytime soon. Unless everyone is just gonna get addicted to Zelda and stop posting?
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More like Persona 5 for me. I surely won't be playing Zelda for some time unless I can get a Wii U on the cheap.
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Anyway, looking at current forums, I think we only need:
-GC
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Surely everything currently being deschushed in hot topic, anime, fansub and C&S could be posted in either GC or TBB?
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I guess. Why do we need to clean it up though?
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I can't remember who mentioned it in the first place, it wasn't me though.
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Maybe Doom, but he has some crazy optimization ideas or something. Too complex and who cares about shaving off fractions of a second from navigation?
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I'm all for reducing clicks though. Which is why I like the quick reply feature.
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I'll move Anime and rename fan submission for now.
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Quick reply is good, true.
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Make the recent threads list longer, it's all I usually look at.
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I'll see if I can do that in the control panel. There's a fair chance I might not be able to Sad
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What is Fan Submission being renamed to?
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Either Eightman or if we want something serious, think of suggestions.
Btw, I've changed the recent topic view of the portal to what i think he maximum allowed is.
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Changed it to 8 because 10 looked a bit too long. Messed up the "welcome" box's HTML now. Looks a bit off and I can't tell how. Anybody got any suggestions for that?
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First thoughts:

I think you could consolidate into three, maybe four forums: GC, GD, FS, and one for Suggestions/Announcements. Archive everything else. I'll be honest, I don't quite understand what TBB is for other than the winning thread, which you could move to GC as its own special sticky thread or subforum or something like that. If it is really intended to exist as a pure spam forum then okay. FS is an interesting case. It's been a part of SG since the beginning, and it's always nice to see what people might be up to creatively and encourage them to share, so I do think it should be maintained in some form, even if it is a lot slower in terms of traffic. The name "Fan Submission" is definitely outdated, though.

As for the portal, how many of the links under Navigation are necessary? There are a couple of 403s and the "blogs" link is redundant with the one under the banner. Whether the blogs themselves are still worth maintaining would be another question.
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Uh. No. The TBB forum is essential personnel.
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I think you could consolidate into three, maybe four forums: GC, GD, FS, and one for Suggestions/Announcements. Archive everything else. I'll be honest, I don't quite understand what TBB is for other than the winning thread, which you could move to GC as its own special sticky thread or subforum or something like that. If it is really intended to exist as a pure spam forum then okay. FS is an interesting case. It's been a part of SG since the beginning, and it's always nice to see what people might be up to creatively and encourage them to share, so I do think it should be maintained in some form, even if it is a lot slower in terms of traffic. The name "Fan Submission" is definitely outdated, though.

As for the portal, how many of the links under Navigation are necessary? There are a couple of 403s and the "blogs" link is redundant with the one under the banner. Whether the blogs themselves are still worth maintaining would be another question.


Oh I'd certainly remove most of those links if I had access to do it. I may draft a list and see if I can go to Man of TXT's place and do it there. The thing is, as long as registration needs to be closed, how worth is it to tidy up the portal (especially considering most of the current regulars have admitted they rarely visit it)? By the way, I was told that up to date captcha verification isn't compatible with this old ass forum.

I'm all for streamlining this forum where possible though. Need suggestions for the new name for Fan Submission.
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Either Eightman or if we want something serious, think of suggestions.
Btw, I've changed the recent topic view of the portal to what i think he maximum allowed is.


hey man. i'm a serious guy.
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Not sure what to suggest as a new name for fansub. But yeah, it would be nice to see more artsy submissions. Or anything creative, really, whether artsy or not?

Even if it's only old posters visiting SG, it would indeed be nice to declutter it, if we could. Like, all the blogs are useless, as Doom said. Is there no way Luke could give us a back-office access, if he's too busy to do anything himself?

Re. TBB, it does play a useful role as a more spammy, light-hearted forum. Also, it might be a good starting point if some kids are actually posting (I don't know if you've noticed posts by the RDM's daughter?).
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Art & Creations?
Still doesn't sound right...
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@Cid, you forgot TBB boo

@Damien, yup, it doesn't. But FS doesn't either.
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TBB as a lighter, possibly "family friendly" forum is an interesting idea. I can get behind that.

I don't want to bring up anything radical or brazen, but if accessibility is an issue, would the regulars here not be capable of financing and overseeing their own maintenance?
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We have to be maintained? What, like every 3000 posts my account needs a tune up? I'm not sure I understand what you're talking about?
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I can't tell if you're being flippant, but if you're not, I'm asking if it's possible, or if there's any interest, for regulars here, rather than an absentee admin, to pay for and control the domain and hosting, in order to have full access to site maintenance and customization.
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Oh. I'd be interested in that, probably. However, I don't have much in the way of web skills, so it wouldn't make much difference.
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Money makes a difference. Suppose someone would be willing to help admin the site, but not want to spend significant time AND money to do so.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that one of the most significant developments over the past 15+ years is that many of us, I would hope, have sources of disposable income.
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SG 2G17: Cooperative Edition?

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That would be cool.
Now, I don't know what Damien has in mind, but if the plan is just to make sure SG stays alive, running it like a coop would make total sense.

Even better, turn it into a charity so we can claim maintenance fees on our tax return!
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Square Gaming Real?
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The Square Gamer Foundation.
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Nah, it should be independent from what we already do, really.

The mission of the square gamer foundation is to educate new generations about retro JRPGs from the 90s to early 2000s.
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Truly the noblest of goals.
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I will give Man of TXT a call in the next few days, direct him here and see what his thoughts are on all this.
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Perhaps, if we're really talking revamp, we should stand up a Dev copy of SG that we can mess with without risking harming the rich forum history.
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Let's hack and test someone else's forum so we can be sure upgrading won't delete posts.
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Nah, it should be independent from what we already do, really.

The mission of the square gamer foundation is to educate new generations about retro JRPGs from the 90s to early 2000s.


The RDM is now fascinated by the idea of a charity that leverages 80s/90s/early 2000s era pop culture nostalgia to generate interest in donating/causes.

This is apparently a real thing that has been studied and works.
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