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I don't see or recall a user by that name. But it's a rank on the S Groove? Held by ... did you mean j0hn Ayanami?
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No, he's referring to an actual homeless person he met during SG world or something. In Vancouver anyway.
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I was just thinking about how hyped I am for this release but then realized I don't have a PS4 so now it's a confused hype.
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I presume you'll get a PS4 eventually?
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I was thinking of getting the PS4 Pro but apparently it sounds like a jet engine and sometimes melts. If I get a PS4 it would be after I build a new PC as I've been meaning to do that for a while. It would be nice if they just released the HD port on steam as well. They have FFVII/VIII/X/X-2 on there.
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Did they release the X HD remaster on Steam?
They seem to be promoting Zodiac Age and the VII remake in as PS4 titles only right now, but I can't imagine them not getting a wider release later on.
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Did they release the X HD remaster on Steam?


Yup, along with X-2.
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Check out this ridiculously expensive special edition btw.
https://store.eu.square-enix.com/uk/product/440367/final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age-collector-s-edition-ps4
£185.

It has some little Judge Master busts, including one that looks like Golbez's old avatar.
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Why did I allow myself to keep an FFXII avatar for so long even after I realized I had been tricked. :sadtea
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I still want to find where you were tricked
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The forum search function makes that very hard to find. I've tried.
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Yeah there are threads that certainly exist that I haven't managed to find using the search feature
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Also, it's not very helpful for multipage threads. because it doesn't tell you what page is giving the hit.
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I'd probably get this collectors edition of it cost £100 less. Not sure when I'll get around to playing the remaster though. Might wait to see if it drops in price like other Final Fantasy games generally do.
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Those busts look pretty neat. I bet they look like shit IRL tho.
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They're apparently pretty small, so won't look that great next to larger stuff in a display. I also haven't heard any word on what they're made of, so it's probably like Amiibo quality plastic.
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Given the price of that shit they ought to be quality metal or something.
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The postcards look almost exactly like ones I already have. I must have gotten them with the PS2 game.
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I was thinking recently about how I'm always defending FFXII. I think it's not so much the story or characters, which I think are fine but not exceptional: except for Vaan and Penelo, they're good enough to hold the game together and drive it forward, and to add context to the world. What I really loved was the battle system and the world itself. I thought the cities were awesome, I liked exploring and running into areas I was still too weak to explore, coming up with winning gambit system logic, etc. The world felt big and alive.
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I wonder how that will hold up? I actually played the first half hour of the PS2 version a few weeks ago. It looks pretty ghastly on a modern TV. The remaster makes it look like how I remember the game looking
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I also wonder how the "big lively world" feeling holds up. I'm currently enjoying the big kind of lonely world of BotW! (It's lonely early on anyway - I don't want to hear how that progresses!)
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Why are you not posting in the Zelda thread btw?
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I dunno. I guess I will.

EDIT: Oh I know why. It's not in the recent threads list.
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I was thinking recently about how I'm always defending FFXII. I think it's not so much the story or characters, which I think are fine but not exceptional: except for Vaan and Penelo, they're good enough to hold the game together and drive it forward, and to add context to the world. What I really loved was the battle system and the world itself. I thought the cities were awesome, I liked exploring and running into areas I was still too weak to explore, coming up with winning gambit system logic, etc. The world felt big and alive.


My thoughts exactly, except those regarding Vaan and Penelo.
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Did anybody play Revenant Wings? I've probably banged on about it a lot, but I found the plot of that game a lot more solid than FFXII itself.
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I didn't play it, but I thought it looked cute.
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I think I own Revenant Wings but don't remember playing it.
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A more solid plot than FFXII isn't hard to achieve. So I would need way more to go on to even give it a shot.
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I can't remember too much about it tbh. It's like Final Fantasy tastics but you use FF monsters and most of the characters from FFXII. I finished it though, so it can't have been bad (or too long).
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...I cant believe what Im hearing. You guys like 12?

It's the worst entry in the series. Of all the numbered ones at least.

Maybe there's something out there with final fantasy attached to it that's worse but not out of the numbered ones

I just gave my copy away like the trash it was. AND I HOLD ON TO EVERYTHING

It's in my top 5 worst games Ive ever played.
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I am hurt to my FFXII-loving core.
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You ever see that red letter media mr plinkett bit where he's asking people to describe qui gon jinn and then asking people to describe han solo?
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I did not. Are you suggesting something similar for FFXII and... FF... I dunno, VI?
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Well A: Consider watching Mr plinkett's star wars episode 1 review because it's fucking funny and hopefully you'll get some joy out of it.

B: Sure, why not. Let's try 6 for this example.

12 vs 6: The characters.

There are 14 playable characters in 6, but only 2-3 out of those 14 are so underdeveloped that I couldnt tell you much about them. Even if you chose Mog for me talk about: I'd probably say some character description like "wise cracking little shithead whose keeping a brave face even though everything about his life sucks hardcore"

Ask me to describe Penelo or Vaan or Fran and I'll probably stare at you blankly.

back in the day I remember everyone here slamming FF8's characters compared to 6 or 7's because they didnt have sidequests dedicated to them. I argued they didnt need the sidequests or story arcs involving them because their dialogue was their character depth. Selphie, Zell, Irvine. They are the people that would say what they said and react how they did. And they talked a lot so you could gleam a lot.

The problem in 12 is nobody fucking talks. Forget arcs I cant even get these assholes to even speak. When a character does get some dialogue it's usually isolated too, meaning the group doesnt weigh on anyone else's development so character relationships also suffer.

Most of the dialogue in 12 is unfortunately area announcements

The characters arrive at an area

say something like "this place is pretty...wont be far to this place" or "this place sucks...let's hurry on shall we"

I should expect to get more out of a character than well "Balthier thinks swamps kinda suck"

There's really no excuse for the barebones plot of 12. 6 was a much younger game but there was more going on it's plot and it's plot was more coherent too.

It's not like being a serious war plot is mutually exclusive to being more grand and coherent.

Forget 6 we should be comparing Tactics to 12. Tactics had a lot of characters and was serious but almost every named character you had a clear sense of who they were, how they felt about the world they inhabited and their motives. 12 crashes and burns in this regard.
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...I cant believe what Im hearing. You guys like 12?

It's the worst entry in the series. Of all the numbered ones at least.

Maybe there's something out there with final fantasy attached to it that's worse but not out of the numbered ones

I just gave my copy away like the trash it was. AND I HOLD ON TO EVERYTHING

It's in my top 5 worst games Ive ever played.
Im not even trying to be mean.
I just dont get it.


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Anybody gonna pick up the remaster then? I undoubtedly eventually will, but I can't see it featuring anywhere on my to-play list. I only managed to get half way through FFX HD, and I bought that 3 times.
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Anybody gonna pick up the remaster then? I undoubtedly eventually will, but I can't see it featuring anywhere on my to-play list. I only managed to get half way through FFX HD, and I bought that 3 times.


I am seriously considering buying a PS4 this weekend just so I can play this game.

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It's the worst entry in the series. Of all the numbered ones at least.

Maybe there's something out there with final fantasy attached to it that's worse but not out of the numbered ones

I just gave my copy away like the trash it was. AND I HOLD ON TO EVERYTHING

It's in my top 5 worst games Ive ever played.
Im not even trying to be mean.
I just dont get it.


It must be tough to live a life with such shit taste.
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I've heard good things about the game and its improvements, but buying a new console for it is pretty extreme Shock
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Thanks Cid for speaking truth to lameness with regards to FFXII.
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Methinks Cid doesn't have to wonder about having shit taste in games. boo
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Says the guy who loves FFIV.

No, wait, FFIV is alright.
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FFIV has a better story and better characters than FFXII.
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And yet I found FFXII at least as enjoyable an experience. Probably even moreso!
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Damien wrote:
I've heard good things about the game and its improvements, but buying a new console for it is pretty extreme Shock


Well I'll have to get one eventually anyway for the FF7 remake and a couple other games I'd like to play that are exclusive.

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The more time that passes, the more worried I get about how the FFVII remake will turn out. I currently suspect it'll be a DLC patchwork mess like FFXV has become
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I already assume it will suck for overemphasizing Zack and the new Sephiroth clones they introduced in Advent Children and Crisis Core too, I guess.

Change the story around to fit that shit better, no doubt.

Also, shitty KH style gameplay.
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