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Just quit. They only give you a piece of paper and an unflattering dress at the end.
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Yeah. Surely you can get a friend to give you those now instead, then you can play FFIV!
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The random battles in the giant are currently annoying me, as there's a big cutscene before it, and you can't save or exit
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Pfft... random battles in the giant are nothing compared to random battles in the last area.
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I had to restart my game because I realized far too late that not using augments was a bad thing I think I'm at Troia again, I can't quite remember.
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FuSoYa still glow for some reason?
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I had to restart my game because I realized far too late that not using augments was a bad thing I think I'm at Troia again, I can't quite remember.


I've only just used some of the augments. What's bad about not using them?
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Apparently you have to give them to characters that leave to get better augments or something. I'm not about to start over for that though.
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Yeah. Fuck that.
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I had to restart my game because I realized far too late that not using augments was a bad thing I think I'm at Troia again, I can't quite remember.


I've only just used some of the augments. What's bad about not using them?


Being supposedly overleveled for things, but still not being able to get through fights easily... I totally fucked up somewhere.
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Powerlevel for the next eight hours and you'll be all right.
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Don't know if they fixed this for DS, but at a certain point leveling can actually decrease your stats in FFIV.
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Really? What point, as I'm levelling at the moment.
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70 or 80 or something like that. I don't remember or I would have said.
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I think it's 70, I was at the high 60's when I finished the GBA version.
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Best have changed, as my Cecil is currently at Level 71
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Well, maybe save before your level ups just in case.
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I think they corrected it. Equipped Augments add additional points to your stats after a certain level, so by (using an FAQ!) juggling it correctly you can make your characters uber-awesome if you have the right augments equipped.
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Well I'm in the last area of the game.
I've listened to or read no advice what so ever, so I hope I'm going to be able to beat the last boss.
I gave up on Final Fantasy III DS after fighting the last boss for the 3rd or 4th time and failing miserably.
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You know what the RDM just realized that makes FFIV totally awesome? The party sucks ass. They spend the whole game failing miserably. It rules.
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Doesn't that kind of happen in most RPGs though? The stories are usually structured so that success would make them end abruptly. Granted, the FFIV party may have a few more defeats than most, but still most RPG parties only have success in fetch quests until the end of the game.

I mean let's jump over to FFVI for an example (the failures of FFV mimic FFIV's a little too closely). Sure, they have some success in defending the esper in Narshe and a few other times, but they still fail at the major stuff. They fail to prevent the Empire from opening the gate to the Esper world. Then they fail to prevent Kefka from fcuking with the statues. They have some other failures before that too. Yeah, it's not as much failure after failure like in FFIV, but still I wouldn't say it's atypical.
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Maybe it's not so much that they fail at all, but how constant it is. Basically, Cecil becomes a Paladin, they rescue Rosa, and the rest is "ZOMG we're pWned." And they're so sure they won't get pWned, too.
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That's true. It's like Golbez just pwned us good, let's chase after him and um.. stop him.
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Serial Failure is really just a method of moving the plot forward. It puts the characters right in the middle of the story, right down to the entire universe stopping to wait for those characters to pass by the exact right place. We see the bad shit go down as it happens. It works out in classical sense as being a long series of Act Twos.

Contrast this with any given Dragon Quest or all of the Quintet games, wherein all of the "bad" stuff has already happened, and our hero more or less fixes everything. This works out in the classical sense as skipping Acts One and Two entirely and starting in the middle of Act Three.
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Any given Dragon Quest game? Certainly not DQVIII. There's practically nothing but failures in that game and some of them are incredibly stupid failures. Honestly, I think it's worse than FFIV even in that respect.
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Oh yeah, DQ8 is just monumental failure after another.

FFVI has some rather epic fail in that the entire world gets wrecked and many towns get smote by Kefka.

It's just not an RPG without some sort of massive fail in it.
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The RDM doesn't really think of the end of the world as so much of an epic fail because, if you think back on when it was new, it was all like "Holy fuck, Kefka out of nowhere with the epic pWn!", and Shadow was all like "Alright, so maybe we suck ass, but I'm a ninja. Let's do this." And do it they did. More epic pWn than epic fail.
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Serial Failure is really just a method of moving the plot forward. It puts the characters right in the middle of the story, right down to the entire universe stopping to wait for those characters to pass by the exact right place. We see the bad shit go down as it happens. It works out in classical sense as being a long series of Act Twos.


Not DQV.
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I think you quoted the wrong part, maybe.
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Serial Failure is really just a method of moving the plot forward. It puts the characters right in the middle of the story, right down to the entire universe stopping to wait for those characters to pass by the exact right place. We see the bad shit go down as it happens. It works out in classical sense as being a long series of Act Twos.


Not DQV.


Isn't bowning and making clone babies what moves the plot forward in DQ5?
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i stopped playing after getting that ship that takes you to the moon
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Yeah Golbez you're right. Oops.

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Serial Failure is really just a method of moving the plot forward. It puts the characters right in the middle of the story, right down to the entire universe stopping to wait for those characters to pass by the exact right place. We see the bad shit go down as it happens. It works out in classical sense as being a long series of Act Twos.


Not DQV.


Isn't bowning and making clone babies what moves the plot forward in DQ5?


Not really. There are some times where you get owned pretty bad in that game.

There's three cycles: you as a child, you as an adult, and you as a father who kicks all ass.

Your father is murdered in front of your eyes and you're made a slave for 10 years. Your wife is thought to have been murdered. You end being turned to stone for 7-8 years by some demon lord, and you're eventually sold as a lawn ornament. You stand there for about 8 years while you watch the guy's son who bought you grow up as you miss the opportunity to see your own children grow. A bunch of other stuff.

Man that game had some rough times.
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Wasn't that the plot to the first Conan movie?
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Someone watched the Conan movies?

...man, the Edge forgot how much of a fucking wuss Edge is.
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I got to the end of this game, then stopped playing because I didn't have the time on the way to work to finish the last boss and watch the ending etc, and don't play the DS at any other time Ahhh!
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I haven't played this for ages. I got distracted trying and failing to finish Revenant Wings.

I don't even remember where I got to. I think I just lost Edward and Rydia.
Oh well, time to start again and get all the Augments I missed being the completionist nub that I am. I miss everything.
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I still haven't picked this game up again yet. It's just that I really am plain not looking forward to the pain in the ass leveling I'm going to have to do in the l;ast area. I even got wiped out by a pretty standard random encounter in there once. That was a bit of bad luck, but still it makes me cautious enough to return and save after every few encounters.
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Oh yes, the difficulty. I lost to the first boss, the Mist Dragon of all things!
I have no idea how I got past Mom Bomb, that was probably sheer luck. That was impossible on GBA/PSone as it was.
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The difficulty is definitely up for the whole game, but it really ramps up for the areas on the moon. It's just ridiculous, I could appreciate the added challenge earlier in the game, but by the end it gets to the point that it's just plain annoying.
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Oh goodie. I never finished the game on the basis that Zeromus was too hard for me and I didn't have the lunar equipment because I couldn't beat those minibosses either.
I'm never gonna finish this I bet.
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The RDM just hit the moon. The Whale doesn't really look stupid enough. They made it look a little cool.

Hopefully the RDM is powerlevelled enough to handle moon monsters.
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I just finished this! Of course, i'd finished the snes version 999999999999 times, but this was fun enough.

Didn't know about the augment bullshit. I'll remember for new game +.

I agree with rdm that the whale looked goofier and therefore awesomer in the snes version

they added 9999999999999 exposition to when fusoya reveals that golbez and cecil are brothers. THEIR MOM IS CECILIA, HAHAHAHAHA OH god.

I want a wii so I can play TAY :<

i also didn't understand the point of Whyt, though some of his minigames were mildly entertaining. plz to explain for when i new game + this bitch
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You actually going to play New Game + ?
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sure why not! it's fun enough. and speedy enough, too. I can do it in 12 hours, since i'm a dirty hax0r.
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Hax!
I rarely have the patience to finish an RPG even once!
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well, i figure, i've finished ff4 99 times, so i figure i deserve a bit of haxing. i never hax on my first time through tho!
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Way 2 tables, Serge.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:32 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

I sorta stopped playing this. I really should get back into it.

It's funny reading posts above saying I should quit Uni to play it more. I actually failed it so I avoided the ridiculous dress but I only get a Diploma instead.
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