Gundam Seed Destiny

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:36 am Post subject: Gundam Seed Destiny

Okay, the first ep is subbed, so topic time. Obviously, if you haven't seen Seed, you don't belong here, as there will be Seed spoilers abound, I'm sure.

Unorganized ranting about ep 1:
- Does anyone else think that they're pushing it with the deja vu business? Never mind the stuff in the ep (like stealing the Gundams) I mean, I was laughing at the ED because it's basically identical...
- Not sure if I dig Impulse's design yet, but the dual blades = good
- Good to see Cagalli and Athrun, and I hope they won't be taking a backseat to things... Athrun needs to bust out Justice (though I did enjoy his outfit + shades)
- Can anyone remind me as to what Gundam stands for again?
- Seed OPs seem to like to give shit away... Ramius + Bartfeldt? Kira vs. Shinn? woot
- So many characters... first ep of S1 had tons as well, but Destiny is in much more of a hurry, which I think I like - just throwing you into the action. I'm guessing that the pink-haired ZAFT girl is Luminaria because I think she sounded like Maaya... I could be wrong. Someone here who read up on all the character designs could probably name all the major faces in that ep.
- I want the old characters to come back already! (I'm referring to Kira, Lacus, Dearka, Yzak, Miraillia, Ramius, Bartfeldt... whoever else I'm forgetting)
- All in all, I liked it. It met my expectations. Now give me more! Mr. Green

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:46 am Post subject:

So who's subbing it so far? Any recomendations on who to get it from?

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject:

Sweet, downloading now.
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject:

The new acroynm for Gundam was..

General
Unilateral
Nuclear
Displacement
Assault
Manuever

Or something like that. I know Nuclear and Assualt were in there.

Yeah, Destiny just throws all of this stuff at you really quickly, it was hard for me to keep up watching the raw, so I had my little notebook there to jot down some names quickly

I do want to see more of the "old faces"

One thing that is kind of strange though - how can Asuran not be like, a superhero idol? That's something I never really understood when you would see the Gundam pilots "after" their final battles, they aren't always heroes even though they save the world. It's a bit unrealistic for people, I think, not to know who Asuran and Cagalli are.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject:

Like I said, I hope they don't take a backseat...

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject:

Ya, hence I thought that the pink-haired soldier might be Lunamaria... but now I doubt it since Lunamaria is probably a Lacus clone.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Someone upload to DO's!

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject:

So what, good, bad, better then SEED?
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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject:

I'll ask again, which groups are subbing this so far? And of these groups, which one(s) do you recomend?
I realize I can answer the first one myself, but I would like to hear some opinions on the second question as I am not very knowledgeable of fan subbing groups.

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject:

Episode 1 was a very good start to Seed Destiny, in my opinion. There was a lot of deja vu and it seems that they are just following a formula of some sort but it was still done very well. I think they just wanted to play around with the direction hence the striking similarities to the first season. You just can't help but laugh at some of them ie. the opening and ending theme animations.

I wasn't really impress with the mech designs when I first saw them on the official website but they actually look a lot better in action. The three special units look good and I like their mobile armor forms. I'm digging Impulse's design even though it's just an upgraded version of the strike and the paint job could be better but wielding two anti-ship swords puts a smile on my face. It's almost as good as Sword Calamity.

The new characters are interesting but I'm really looking foward to the series bringing back the previous characters. I want to know what happened to Dearka and Yzak's Gundams as the opening shows them with Ginn's and I do recall that their Gundams were not that severly damaged after the war. I still can't fathom why they've been keeping Kira's involvment in the series a secret. No images or info on Kira was released prior to the airing of the first episode and all the Newtypes that were featuring Seed Destiny had the words "Find Kira" in them. Anyways, it's just good to know that he'll be making a big comeback. An upgraded Freedom has me smiling but it would be better if they bring back Justice instead of giving Athrun Savior Gudam.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:42 pm Post subject:

Stellar = Flay yes

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:26 am Post subject:

And I proclaimed Flay to be my favorite GS character when?

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:32 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

You Frey supporter! boo

I can't wait to watch this. I wonder if Lacus and Kira have kids.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 1:51 am Post subject:

UPLOAD 6-12 of ORIGINAL TO DO PLZ.

Frust

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

How about you dl them from me instead tomorrow when I get back to school at a speed that is twice as fast do's?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Post subject:

ok ;D
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:47 am Post subject:

Asuran looked pretty cool in his street clothes, I must say.

I obviously am a fan of Rakusu, but I also like Cagalli and I really liked Muu La Fraga. Kira and Asuran are both right behind those three.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

I like Kagari, Asuran, and Kira the most. love

But Muu La Fraga was the best! boo

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Mwu, Kira, and Bartfeldt are great characters, but they kinda ruined Bartfeldt by (spoilers to be sure): reviving him in the later eps in Seed.

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:54 am Post subject:

Well I was kind of referring to people who were still alive...

I personally don't see any reason to mark Seed spoilers in here, because you have absolutely no reason to watch Destiny if you haven't had Seed. Or maybe it's just because I feel like snubbing it up.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:59 am Post subject:

FLAY DIES BARTFELD DIES (BUT LIVES AGAIN WITH NO ARM AND EYE) BARTFELD'S BITCH DIES CRUZ DIES MUU DIES THOSE THREE DRUG PILOTS DIE BRAZILLLEUUUUEUUEUEUE DIES ASURAN'S DAD DIES CAGALLI'S DAD DIES FLAY'S DAD DIES RAKUSU'S DAD DIES MUU IS THE SON OF CRUZ KIRA DOESNT HAVE A DAD REALLY TOHRU DIES THAT GREEN HAIRED ZAFT PILOT WHO PLAYS THE PIANO DIES

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:18 am Post subject:

But not in that order!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:29 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

lmao green haired pilot

I kinda don't understand something about Kira and Kagari. They say that Kira is a coordinator, the ultimate coordinator, but Kagari is a natural right? How can they be brother and sister? Maybe I missed that, or maybe the subs I had weren't good enough to explain but...but, could someone please explain Kira/Kagari's brother and sister hood along with Kira's birth?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:37 am Post subject:

No, it's not explained, nor is it explained as to how Cagalli was able to go berserk during the final battle. Basically, the whole concept of "seed" was inserted and never expanded upon, almost as if it were a mere gimmick. Here's to hoping that they don't just toss that out the window.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:41 am Post subject:

It isn't explained, the "Seed"/Berserker thing isn't explained (how does Rakusu do it too?), and neither really was Cruz's drug habit, although maybe Muu did mention something about that when he said about his face..

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

I think some of the loop holes and unexplained things in Seed were actually answered within the various Seed spinoffs like Astray or it was quite possible that it was explained within the manga. Unfortunately, I don't collect the manga so I don't know what's explained and what's not though I do recall hearing something about that.

Does anybody actually follow the Seed spinoffs? I've taken a huge interest in Astray and MSV and have been wondering when the two would air. I know there were some previews here and there but they really don't help other than showing off the mechs.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

I need to pick up Astray.

There's going to be an Astray anime?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

I thought Kira and Cagalli's brother/sister relationship was explained in the last episodes. When Rau explained how Kira was made, he said Kira's original mother had twins, but Kira's embryo was taken to an artificial chamber in order to control his growth (i.e. ultimate Coordinator). Cagalli is not a Coordinator because their parents were Naturals. Kira is a first-generation Coordinator.
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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

G ENERATION
U NRESTRICTED
N ETWORK
D RIVE
A SSAULT
M MODULE

That's the new OS for Gaia, Abyss, Impulse, Saviour and Chaos.

FREEDOM, JUSTICE and PROVIDENCE's OS had the U for UNSUBDUED and the N for NUCLEAR.

DESTINY PHASE-01 was WAY better than the first episode of SEED. The music, the presentation, the animation and the ending song "Reason", GOD that song is really beautiful and fits PERFECTLY the gundam genre (that song has that "White Reflection" feel to it, but it's even more beautiful, "Reason" is my #1 anime song from now on).

The way they did the intro ---> W O W !!!!!!!!!!! And what the showed in the intro music ----> W O W !!!!!!!!!!!

Before I continue discussing more about DESTINY, if you didn't see the first episode --> GO DOWNLOAD IT ! DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET YOUR HANDS ON THE FIRST EPISODE !

Now, I've read many things and rumor about the first episode. Well, here's my say on a couple of things :

Stellar, Auel and Sting : Druggies or...

The more I think about it, no. They aren't druggies. Some say enhanced humans, very possible. What if I say they were Coordinators, maybe even Enhanced Coordinator used as tools for Blue Cosmos.

Oh ! one more thing about our "killer trio", Auel's clothes looked like medieval "Robin Hood". Stellar's dress was ok, I guess. Sting... the pants were fine, the jacket was fine too... BUT WAS THE GIRLY "TOP" REALLY NECESSARY ???

Kira's FREEDOM vs Shinn's FORCE IMPULSE

I was quite surprised by it too when I saw it in the intro. Now here's my theory on it based on what've seen posted on this topic :

Someone said in a Gundam related forum that Shinn joined ZAFT, not to get revenge only, but also power. Even after the treaty of Junius was signed, ZAFT continued to develop newer weapons, you can clearly see that in the first episode. Dullindal even stated the conflicts will never end and that power is always necessary.

My guess, is after this attack made by the Blue Cosmos, ZAFT will blame the EA and counterattack. I imagine the ZAFT counterattack will be big and perhaps even cruel, I think even Shinn will enjoy this cruelty towards the EA, since they are partly responsible for the death of his family. But where cruelty reigns, steps in the "Clyne Faction", the Cosmic Era's symbol of Peace. Guess who's in the Clyne Faction... Kira Yamato. I don't know how the FREEDOM got repaired, I don't know if it's still uses a nuclear fission reactor (but it probably does, because FREEDOM does require a lot of power to fully function). I guess these two will face-off (Kira vs Shinn) when ZAFT plans on attacking a neutral branch of the EA.

Well that was my guess, tell me what you think.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject:

Can anyone do me a big favor and upload gundam seed episode 32-44 somewhere? Ill love you long time.
Please?
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

I think there was an image of an upgraded Freedom floating around on the net somewhere. I did save the image but I can't remember where I placed it. I'll post it as soon as I find it.

Edit:
http://www.strike9.com/Killey/1094697148374.jpg

Upon closer inspection it seems more like a concept design for the original freedom.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

The FREEDOM FULL BURST concept was rejected cuz it was too bulky, they've talked about it in a magazine called Anime Invasion.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

wtf Asuran vs Kira again?

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:20 am Post subject:

I DO have to profess my slight annoyance at the clone-like looks for the new characters...

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Gundam Seed Destiny

Yeah, I have to admit that the similarities are more than just coincidence but this is Hisashi Hirai after all. Most of his character designs are very similar to each other.

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:46 am Post subject:

Yeah.. but, it isn't just the faces in this instance, but a lot of the hair..

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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:50 am Post subject:

LAWL GUNDAMZ!!!!11
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:08 am Post subject:

Destiny ED = Nami Tamaki = sung Believe and Realize