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 WaWard
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 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject:  DQ IX is a DS game! |
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DamienJingle Bellend  Managerial Enforcer 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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That could work.
Better than being a PS3 game anyway. Shame it's not on the 360 or wii.
I guess the Dragon Quest swords game will suffice on the wii until they bring out some sort of inevitable IX spinoff.
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WaWard
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I just found a picture of the conference.
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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Is this true btw?
(not the picture, the DQ news  )
We need to fucking Gears of War it up sometime btw! |
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CalbrenaTensyo Star  Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Haha I forgot the PSP even existed 
But yeah, DQ IX on the DS would be better than on the PS3  |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I still need to get my Itadaki Street Portable back from Aidsy 
I keep reading it as IIDX  |
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YukaSG Official Pirate  Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I haven't even finished Journey Of The Cursed King yet...fucking hell. |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't quite finish it either 
It's there on my list after Suikoden V and Xenosaga II  |
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YukaSG Official Pirate Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Xenosaga II can be finished completely in about 20 hours. Not too taxing, unless you get stuck on the Cathedral boss, like I did. Fucker.
I'll finish DQ8. I have to. I hate having unfinished RPGs. |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've somehow managed to alreayd rack up over 30 hours on it 
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No wai a DS game can look like this 
Less lies plz  |
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YukaSG Official Pirate Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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That hurts my eyes more than Mario 64 DS.
Lack of DS anti-aliasing is silly. |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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It won't look as bad in motion.
I think it looks too good to possibly be a DS game btw. |
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YukaSG Official Pirate Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Who knows?
Maybe the DS had this potential all along and no one never really utilised it?
Or it's a PSP game
...time will tell. Concept shots rarely make it to finished shots. |
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himurokokenregurgitated pos  Thomas Howard 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I seriously can't believe this bullshit. |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Which secion of bullshit?  |
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WaWard
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| himurokoken wrote: |
| I seriously can't believe this bullshit. |
lol
consoles am dead.
DS am win. |
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Undine
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:34 am Post subject: |
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Handheld consoles you can hook up to your tv = TEH FUTUR!!!~
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:21 am Post subject: |
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I can see how it'd be hard for Square-Enixu to decide at this moment in time exactly what console Dragon Quest would get the most sales on.
The DS however is a safe bet, as pretty much everybody has one, and it's doing great all over the world.
I just hope they don't take any shortcutd, and that it's at least half as good as DQVIII. |
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Questionmarktarius
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Damien wrote: |
| I just hope they don't take any shortcutd, and that it's at least half as good as DQVIII. |
Going with DS is a massive shortcut, in and of itself.
With a workable maximum capacity of a quarter gig or so, maybe, they've got room for one or two FMV's, so they instantly cut the need to make a bunch (same with voice-acting). DS doesn't have near the graphical balls of PS3 (or even PS2), so the textures don't have to be a good, and they don't need to make quite as many.
Essentially, if Squeenix went with PS3, X360, or even Wii, they'd have to invest several million dollars and a couple or six years into development. With DS, they can do the whole thing in a few months, with a budget of far far less. We are going to see piles and piles of devlopers going with DS, mostly because it's a hell of alot cheaper to develop, and partly also out of simple fatigue of having to deal with uber-supercomputer consoles. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Questionmarktarius wrote: |
| Essentially, if Squeenix went with PS3, X360, or even Wii, they'd have to invest several million dollars and a couple or six years into development. With DS, they can do the whole thing in a few months, with a budget of far far less. We are going to see piles and piles of devlopers going with DS, mostly because it's a hell of alot cheaper to develop, and partly also out of simple fatigue of having to deal with uber-supercomputer consoles. |
Or, "how Nintendo saved the video game dev world"  /  ?
Seriously, I understand VG companies' pain. The investment required on FMVs and über-graphics is just becoming ridiculous. Sort of like with Hollywood movies and their million dollars SFX (and how big expensive films must rely on goodies and such to make a profit, etc.). Affordable systems like the NDS are a great opportunity for smaller dev companies. I don't mind eye candy and hollywood style games, once in a while, and I don't wish they disappeared, but the market will be healthier (more innovative/creative? more eclectic, at least) if smaller companies (and their lower budget games) also get given a chance to thrive.
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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But graphics are not everything.
Sure the home consoles can pull of better textures/voice acting and shit, but there's more to a good game than that.
Personally I love the idea of a BIG RPG release like a main series Dragon Quest game being on a console I can play on the bus or at work
The world has moved on from FMVs.
I think the era when graphics mark the only progression of games is well and truly passing
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CalbrenaTensyo Star Managerial Enforcer
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject:  |
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| Damien wrote: |
| I think the era when graphics mark the only progression of games is well and truly passing |
I really hope you're right
I want my games to be fun again plz  |
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YukaSG Official Pirate Managerial Enforcer
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Entr0pi3Randomly Generated Hone Hone Cock
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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W00t, multiplayer action? (around 19s in the video)
Looks neat.
At first I was wondering why the screen was flickering at some point, then I realized it was because of all the camera flashes 
Might be the 1st DQ game I'll ever play in my life |
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himurokokenregurgitated pos Thomas Howard
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Chris Kohler posted this in his blog:
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Tuesday, 12 December 2006
Dragon Quest on DS: What It Means
Topic: Japan,Portable Gaming
I think everyone can agree that today's announcement that Dragon Quest IX will appear on Nintendo DS is shocking and meaningful, but I imagine that not everyone is quite sure why. Certainly it is a bad day to be Sony, who just lost another major exclusive. Dragon Quest VIII was the best-selling PlayStation 2 game in Japan. Not the best-selling RPG or the best-selling Square Enix game -- the single biggest PS2 game, ever.
Beyond that, though, there are many things to consider, which I'll be trying to work out after the jump (or below, depending on how you got here).
There were rumblings that Square Enix would indeed announce Dragon Quest IX at this press event. Mostly because they wouldn't hold a big to-do like this without something really major to show, and the other options -- a spin-off, or a remake of an older game -- weren't going to cut it.
However, there was one big reason that they wouldn't show off DQIX -- because it's too early to decide what next-generation system should be the home of Japan's biggest franchise. Square Enix has traditionally waited to see what the outcome of the console wars would be before committing Dragon Quest to a platform. This is why DQVII and DQVIII arrived so late in the lifecycles of PlayStation 1 and 2, respectively -- because Square Enix didn't start development until they were sure the audience was there.
But there was a third outcome that none of us had considered, and that was that DQIX might appear on Nintendo DS. If we take as gospel the fact that Dragon Quest goes to the system with the highest userbase, it makes sense. DS is on track to outsell every other game console in the history of Japan.
Not to mention the fact that the DS, both as a product and in its branding and image, is an embodiment of the feeling that the DQ series seeks to embrace. DQ is played by hardcore gamer nerds, sure, but it's also for little kids and moms and dads and retirees. It's a simple, accessible game for everybody. It's Japan's equivalent of Disney movies.
In that sense, why not put it on DS? The only real barrier was that the Dragon Quest games had always been on home consoles. But it's getting to the point where there's no difference. Sure, it's not going to look as pretty as Dragon Quest VIII, but the screenshots that have been released prove that the Nintendo DS has no trouble with Akira Toriyama's art style. Plus, DQVIII was really the only game in the series that exuded any sort of technical prowess, anyway. Dragon Quest 7 looked like total ass for a PSone game and Japan bought four million of them.
DQIX might be the first four-million-selling game on Nintendo DS.
That's something else. Square Enix stands to rake it in on this. They could spend three years and 30 million dollars making DQIX for PlayStation 3, then barely scrape that money back. Or they could make a killing on DQIX while they wait. You might call this opportunistic; I call it Nintendo's business strategy coming into its own. You might say that this heralds the death of home gaming consoles; I say there's no reason Wii can't do the same thing.
Also requiring some thought is the new direction the gameplay is taking. Dragon Quest VIII was a staunchly traditional RPG that outright rejected change -- besides the graphics, it felt very much like a game from fifteen years ago. But Dragon Quest IX features a real-time battle system and a four-player mode. Square Enix isn't particularly forthcoming about how the four-player online game and the single-player mode will be balanced, or which is the "main" mode. But since it'll be released next year, we won't have to wait long to find out.
Speaking of which, the timing of this announcement must also be considered. It's the week before Jump Festa, of course, at which Square Enix will have a sprawling booth filled with playable, anticipated titles. But it's also just weeks before the release of Dragon Quest Monsters Joker, a Pokemon-styled monster-collecting-battling spinoff of the main series.
DQMJ was already pretty much guaranteed to go over a million units on the strength of the franchise and the fact that it looks pretty damn good. But now, Dragon Quest lovers know that they'll need a Nintendo DS to play the next game in their favorite series. And with a spinoff game out this month, quite a few of them will decide that it's the right time to take the plunge.
I don't even want to speculate, now, what Nintendo DS sales will be in Japan over the holiday. It'll make the 900,000 units they moved in November here in the US look like a rounding error.
There are still, I'm sure, some holdouts who believe DQIX to be a stopgap measure and that the tenth game in the series could still appear on PlayStation 3. But it won't. Because between DQ Monsters this year and DQIX/DQ Swords the next, Square Enix is sending a very strong message to the Dragon Quest fan base: buy Nintendo hardware. They're not going to pull a fast one on them a year from now and say, "Just kidding, suckers! If you want DQX, it's time to pony up 60,000 yen for PlayStation 3!"
Not going to happen. I think the only question that remains is whether they'll keep the series portable, or release DQX for the home. And ultimately the answer will only come after we see the sales of Wii and PS3. If Wii can dominate the market DS-style, then it's entirely possible.
But that's hardly guaranteed: for all Sony's problems, they're still Sony. And with Xbox 360 having completely shit the bed, PlayStation 3 is the only choice in Japan for anyone who's looking for the full high-end upscale entertainment experience -- which, say what you will about Japan's taste in gaming, is still a whole lot of people. And they've got the lock on Final Fantasy.
And yet, if DQIX is truly a sign of a turning tide, the fact that the Nintendo DS is getting loaded up with Final Fantasy games (Revenant Wings, Crystal Chronicles, III, and God knows what else), it could be the Nintendo DS lineup that's seen as the true continuation of the Final Fantasy series, and the PS3 games might become less relevant. I know that sounds crazy but hey, Dragon Quest IX is on DS. Welcome to Crazytown. |
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himurokokenregurgitated pos Thomas Howard
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| And furthermore, graphics aren't everything, but this is beyond graphics. This about having standards. |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Entr0pi3 wrote: |
W00t, multiplayer action? (around 19s in the video)
Looks neat.
At first I was wondering why the screen was flickering at some point, then I realized it was because of all the camera flashes
Might be the 1st DQ game I'll ever play in my life |
You should play VIII rly |
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Entr0pi3Randomly Generated Hone Hone Cock
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually I played a little bit of it in a FNAC shop |
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| That's not good enough |
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WaWard
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| Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Entr0pi3 wrote: |
| Actually I played a little bit of it in a FNAC shop |
FNAC is the best shop ever.
When I stepped into it the first (and only) time, I got a boner, because this place literally has everything that's not food or clothing that I like. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| lol, hkk emo'd here too |
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Undine
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Hopefully it won't take 5 years to make.
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DamienJingle Bellend Managerial Enforcer
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| If it does, it won't be on the DS |
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Questionmarktarius
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| Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Damien wrote: |
| If it does, it won't be on the DS |
Yeah! The longest DS devcycle I can find (from Magicbox to in-my-hands, give or take localization) was a year and and a half (FFThreemake). |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Kind of unfortunate. Dragon Quest arose out of its primordial muck with DQVIII, but it might go right back in with this one...
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WaWard
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| Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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fuck turn based rpgs
go play awesome handheld rpgs instead
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