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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

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Yup. We are a nation of Christians. If The King's English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for our children and all that good stuff. Religion's on a major upswing in the US, and it's getting scary.


I don't necessarily think the movement is getting any bigger, it's just getting more vocal, and then we have our demogogue news morons like Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly fueling a pointless national debate that has no sense of legitimacy to it.
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What would lead you to think it's not getting any bigger? A frontrunner for the Republican Presidential nomination (Romney) is losing steam because a relatively unknown candidate (Huckabee) keeps pointing out that he's not really Christian. Debates over whether or not intelligent design (or in some cases creationism) pop up almost daily across the country, hell, one of the justices on the supreme court thinks ID should be taught in schools. Maybe the proponents of these movements aren't increasing in number, but they're certainly coming out of the woodwork.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

The Robo D Monkey wrote:
Maybe the proponents of these movements aren't increasing in number, but they're certainly coming out of the woodwork.


One could reasonably assume that's what he meant when he said it's getting more vocal.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, but it makes it look like there are more people.
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As much as I hate the idea of one of those socialist Democratic frontrunners becoming President, I hate even more the idea of that bible thumper becoming it. That'll be the day science dies in the US instead of merely being on life support as it currently is.
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The US is screwed. You should let us Brits have a go at running you. We'd set you right
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

No you are not the only one.

In fact, to me, all science has done is re-affirm the fact that there is something much greater, much more mysterious than we would have ever hoped.

What is gone to me, is the idea that God is a white man, with white beard and sandals who, selfishly (like a human) focuses only on our tiny little planet (out of the whole universe..) and toys with us. Anyone with common sense can see beyond dogma and primarily human structure of the church.

Everything we need to learn and evolve is in front of our eyes, from science to different religions and philosophies.

Religion, that is fanaticism of religion allows people to believe in something without hardly thinking for themselves. Gives them the right to condemn others, and blindly proclaim themselves as the only ones with knowledge of some god-given truth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 7:04 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

Or, to be more concise, evangelical Christians apply the teachings of Paul to their own lives, and the teachings of Moses to everyone else's. Tongue
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What's so bad about socialism?
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it is just not trendy. Mr. Green
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Pssh. All the cool emo kids need to realize that they should stop drawing swaztikas and pretending to be communists and anarchists and jump on the socialism bandwagon.
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Whatever. Socialism is just watered down communism. It's communism that won't commit.
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Socialism is communism with heart.

And less red.
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Socialism is a dream.

The "if" factor if humans could actually live in harmony without some over-burdening structure (and I'm not just talking about government) to keep us in place.

jk i have no idea what im talking about

As for Bill Oreily and the other idiots on the air talking about nonsense, it is because they are paid to do so. Some friends I have always tell me how liberal the media is and all this bullshit. But I see NONE of the important issues ever being talked about on TV, all the good stuff is on the bottom ticker. And even then it is not enough.

It is because these ass clowns are paid to be artificially 'liberal' so as to give the illusion that all sides of the ball are being covered. Very clever, and methodical ways of posting stories.

Anyone see the movie Lions for Lambs? Incredible movie with alot of messages, unfortunately in todays time, it is impossible to get exposure or even publicity for a movie like this.
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Taken from Conservapedia.com:

"The following persons, organizations, television programs or media outlets have well known liberal bias:

The New York Times
ABC, CBS
Dan Rather
CNN
NBC News
LA Times
Michael Moore
The Daily Show
Real Time with Bill Maher
The United Nations
Washington Post
MSNBC"

Or maybe facts just have a liberal bias.
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Some of those actually do have a liberal bias. On the other hand, a number of them actually have a conservative bias, but I suppose not having as pronounced a conservative bias as Fox News counts as having a liberal bias.
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Does the United Nations have a liberal bias?

If so, who the hell decides where the fucking middle is?
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The United Nations has no bias. It's just a conglomeration of countries with their own individual biases. The UN is only slightly less pathetic than the League of Nations (mostly on account of staying power).
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And all of those countries have a liberal bias.

Because they believe in evolution, or trust scientists, or something.
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Mitsurugi CP wrote:
I wonder if the bible has answers for how to avoid getting cornholed in prison? As far as I know, it just has that thing about sodomy being an abomination, but there's no instructions on how to prevent it from happening.


maybe turn the other cheek? oral not as bad? death from choking or rectal hemmoraging? Not those most pleasant of binary choices.

i was raised christian.... but a skeptical one. maybe a bit of a contradiction.
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For totally serious.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Back to top

The Robo D Monkey wrote:
Does the United Nations have a liberal bias?

If so, who the hell decides where the fucking middle is?


Well, the general rule is that you assume that your opinion is in the always in the middle, no matter what, and then you accuse people of being biased to the side you disagree with, while at the same time, actively denying that your beliefs exist on the opposite end of the spectrum.

That, or you don't believe there is a middle ground, in which case, you're a fucking moron. ruroken
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I usually characterize my beliefs as left. At least I did at first before I started seeing that really there are about as many left beliefs that I hate as ones I like, so now I categorize myself as simply a radical.

Perhaps that sounds weird to not place oneself on the middle ground, because that's often thought of as the right path, and so if you're in the right you must be in the middle, right? Well, that differs deeply from my worldview. In fact, I tend to look most down on moderates. They are lukewarm, so I will spit them out. /biblicalref
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The RDM is left, but mostly because the center has been moved so far to the right in this country it's tough to be more conservative without being a fascist.
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I'm a communist AND a fascist. Does that make sense?
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No. Not at all.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/world/5596365.html

Apparently, England has it's fair share of Christians prone to religious hyperbole, as well. Good thing they appear to be in the minority.
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Excellent.

Damn straight laws against blasphemy are unworkable.
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How about damn crooked laws?
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You're for uncrooked laws against blasphemy?
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Ha ha... when BBC2 broadcast Jerry Springer the Opera, Christian Voice tried to have the government make it illegal to broadcast under blasphemy laws.
However, Christian Voice is pretty much one guy with a laptop, so nobody pays any attention.
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Here it would be about 12 million people.
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You're for uncrooked laws against blasphemy?

Don't turn this around on me. You were the one who said the damn straight ones don't work.
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You're misinterpretting what the RDM said.

He said it was "damn straight" that laws against blasphemy don't work. It's an expression. The kids use it these days.
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I don't know. I feel like some punctuation should be used.
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You're wrong, at least in a conventional sense.
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